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jesse.base.eth 🔵
@jessepollak
we aligned internally today that our medium term scaling goal is to target 1 Ggas/s on @base our current target is 2.5 mgas/s, so ~400x, with a long term goal of pushing even further past >1000x it's pronounced "gigagas" and this is our broadband moment
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androidsixteen
@androidsixteen.eth
What's your OKR for managing state growth and ensuring full nodes can stay synced with the network on consumer hardware? Throughput is great, but you're just big blocking unless you have a plan for staying decentralized
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shazow
@shazow.eth
Isn't this conflating decentralization requirements of L1's? It's important for an L1 to be runnable on consumer hardware because there isn't another chain to fall back to when things go wrong. L2's have that luxury, so we can make more generous assumptions (like ignoring full state transition history).
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androidsixteen
@androidsixteen.eth
Are you suggesting that nobody besides the sequencer should need to run a full node for the L2?
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shazow
@shazow.eth
I'm suggesting no one needs to be able to replay the entire history from genesis for L2's, as an example. Yes, many infrastructure participants need to be able to run verifying nodes but those can be partial/light, etc.
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androidsixteen
@androidsixteen.eth
Splitting optimistic vs. zk rollups: - zk: main assumption here would be that the prover can keep up with the throughput, which still takes into consideration another property besides gas/s - optimistic: don't you need a robust set of nodes that can check the sequencer's work?
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shazow
@shazow.eth
1. Yes, but worst case the sequencer goes down and we have to force include transactions to escape 2. Yes, but they only need the last agreed-upon state (checkpoint) + new proposed state to check the work.
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androidsixteen
@androidsixteen.eth
1. agreed, it's a partial truth to suggest that we just need to crank gas/s up, without mentioning proving times, let alone having validity proofs live 2. honest question, why don't sequencers just post massive blocks now?
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