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elle
@riotgoools
"the market dynamics of social media have affected absolutely every corner of the internet and, therefore, “real life” [...] Now all the damned Internet works as a social media platform, and this will shape people’s perception of the world. Just like Marshall McLuhan said: "We shape our tools and then our tools shape us." this piece reminded me of a convo i had last week with someone thru my homepage. they said they wanted to leave the main web and only be on the small internet ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ my response was that i didn't think that was possible bc the world is so entangled with the big internet these days. turning away and leaving the tools to bad ppl won't prevent the effects they will have on everyone irl. good ppl need to show good alternative uses for the tools https://www.animanoir.xyz/blog/2024/the-death-state-of-the-internet/
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@netopwibby.eth
> turning away and leaving the tools to bad ppl won't prevent the effects they will have on everyone irl. good ppl need to show good alternative uses for the tools The last bit is what drives me. New systems and networks are created on a regular basis and initially attract my attention (Handshake, Farcaster, &c) before I realize that folks with perverse incentives were present the entire time. Social media is tricky because humans are hardwired for connection. No way around it. Even recluses venture into town periodically, just to feel the presence of others before retreating. The problem is other people adding casinos and greed into the mix; fucks everything up.
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aesthetica✿
@aesthetica.eth
the question here for me becomes: if ppl are (only) capable of being driven my 'incentives' how do we do that well... what is a nice carrot? do we need sticks? but it seems so hard to have this conversation b/c so much of this space is created and driven by systems & people that feel barely interested in much beyond profit // $$. how do we create good beyond value? and what value does it have...?
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elle
@riotgoools
i think we need more of a culture of self-reliance and diy. the appeal of the internet and open source and blockchain to me was that you could walk in and make anything yourself if u just took some time to learn. it shouldn't be led by incentives. the incentives should come as a result doing what u believe in and others may believe in. somehow it got turned around (╥_╥)
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aesthetica✿
@aesthetica.eth
i do think there is a back to diy thing happening, i wish it was more 'viral.' i think you're 100% correct that the belief // incentives thing got turned around, and now we have to build new paths to take & trace ourselves out of those dead ends...
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elle
@riotgoools
i think it's hard for diy to be viral bc it's intentionally slow. we just need to somehow move away from virality as the goalpost
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aesthetica✿
@aesthetica.eth
agree. i dislike 'viral.' but there is a question of spread & how to perpetuate ideas & ethos when ppl have become accustomed to drinking water from a firehose. but perhaps its just a gradual shift & realignment as ppl realize how exhausting 'that way' is...
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elle
@riotgoools
i think (hope) it's a gradual shift. it's just important to keep presenting examples of a better alternative while everything else has diminishing returns and races to the bottom. hopefully, by adding little by little, one day the scale shifts and it clicks for ppl
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