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@ferran
If, after Muskâs Nazi salute, the U.S. crypto ecosystem and tech industry do not distance themselves from Trump and Musk, it will reveal a great deal about their true understanding of freedom and decentralization. Iâm waiting to see how many influencers and big figures make public statements criticizing it.
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are you 100% sure it's a Nazi salute?
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@ferran
I'm 100% sure that is a Nazi salute since only the nazis and fascist use it in our modern world, and I'm 100% sure he knows it and what does it mean to perform it in a public event in front of hundreds of individuals in one of the most important events in the World. Plus, he is endorsing a German party that has been playing with Nazism and fascism, and that has filonazis among their members. Also, there is no strong evidence that Roman used that salute, and in any case, if they did it, only the fascists used it after them.
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@polmaire.eth
From what I read here and there, it's actually unclear even amongst historians (example here - sorry for the French - https://www.lemonde.fr/international/article/2025/01/21/elon-musk-seme-le-trouble-avec-un-salut-a-la-tribune-au-cours-d-un-meeting-de-donald-trump_6508053_3210.html) and he implies that it's wrong (https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1881536518206218445). Giving him the benefit of the doubt here.
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@ferran
The question is: How long are we gonna keep giving him the benefit of the doubt? Heâs been endorsing a filofascist political party with actual Nazis in it, trying to influence in other countries politics (so that this party can win) by controlling one of the biggest social platforms in the world, and heâs aggressively against anti-labor self-organization. Thereâs really not much difference between him and those rich businessmen cozying up with the nazis during the rise of fascism in the 1920s and 1930s. Henry Ford, as an example, always trying to play a game in between so that there would be always a doubt (I recommend reading about his story with the NSDAP and his efforts to influence the public opinion in favour of them). But also many other German magnates. Ofc, fascism in 2025 doesnât have to look like fascism in 1945. But itâs still fascism. Giving fascists the benefit of the doubt when theyâre openly doing their thing (openly) is just dangerous. Because then it will be too late.
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