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kia
@kia.eth
why Farcaster channels ainโt hitting it:
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Michael Pfister
@pfista
seems like more of a scale issue than one of a channel ui/ux issue if farcaster had 1m DAUs channel experience could be totally different not saying channels are perfect today either
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kia
@kia.eth
i think those are separate issues. this one is a scale issue, you're right. reference for other folks, i got into the interface issue here: https://warpcast.com/kia.eth/0x51e7d164
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Michael Pfister
@pfista
Yes they're separate issues, but to say channels are broken seems misdirected. Channels aren't working because there aren't enough users casting niche, fresh content daily So is the solution to change channels, or to get more users? Agreed channels aren't living up to the vision in practice, but curious to hear what you think the solution is here. Channel redesign? Remove channels? Focus on growth?
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kia
@kia.eth
well i think they're different issues. for the current 'vibe not community' thing in the screenshot i do agree that it's a scale issue. but if we did have enough scale, diversity and desire to use "channels" as different communities (a la FB Groups or Reddit) then, I think we'd run into the interface problem. the twitter interface and by extension twitter-clones are designed for a unified discourse, not a fragmented one. (see screenshot below). but the idea of channels, communities and fragmented internet goes against the principles that were used to design twitter's interface. rn, channels are a slap-on onto the twitter UI and "channels" (conceptually) and twitter interface optimize for opposing outcomes.
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Michael Pfister
@pfista
So at scale, how do you solve the interface problem? Instead of channels, would we have isolated apps built on the farcaster graph that are community focused? Does Merkle need to launch a Facebook Groups clone? Maybe throw in linkedin too Or should warpcast-as-twitter just implement #hashtags with better ML in line with what has worked on twitter?
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kia
@kia.eth
you know i do think it's a great opportunity for another client and as an aspiring entreprepoor i've thought about it a lot. and i'm not excited to report back that I don't quite have a solution. though I think we'll see a few things: 1. a first principles approach to a "fragmented internet' version of twitter. most likely attempted by merkle. 2. whitelabled community app: established subreddits, jiu jitsu twitter/instagram and other cohesive internet communities could use their own apps. this'll likely be white labeled because not a lot needs to change from one to the next but it's hard to make many individual versions of it. 3. there will be discord-like attempts. i.e. an app that's designed around users that are in 5-10 club ted size, niche communities.
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kia
@kia.eth
re: 1, it pisses me off that we've had no attempts to approach the problem by first principles and so many attempts in design by analogy of cloning warpcast. re: 2, i think the entrepreneur that attempts this needs to be leading a community of this size as a pre-req or have their buy-in. it's hard to build this and then try to sell cause of feature parity problem. and hart to cold start a new community in a new app cause like, from where? I'm personally more interested in 3. it's hard to do rn because it def needs decentralized DCs (not just channels). i also think the group chat space is due for a disruption with AI as a native functionality and transactions as a first class action. who knows maybe @jpren.eth will bang this one cause he's A tier.
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Michael Pfister
@pfista
Agreed, was thinking about this earlier today https://warpcast.com/pfista/0x6ecb6c2f https://warpcast.com/pfista/0x5f03b54a
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kia
@kia.eth
oh wow
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