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you...still are? this is not a counterpoint, other people can do bad things too. but you left and are doing literally nothing to fix it, just bitching about it on the internet from afar. what did you do to prevent any of this? did you run for office? did you support advocates of your beliefs with time/work/money? did you even vote? because it kinda sounds like you did nothing, things turned out differently than you wanted, and then you ran away ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ THAT is the anti-american bit. whining nonstop, blaming one small group rather than obvious structural issues, and not offering a single solution, in fact advocating that everyone just leave. your incentives are completely aligned with the US failing. start being part of the solution or shut the fuck up.
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counterpoint: I think whining publicly is an example of "did you support advocates of your beliefs with time/work/money"? based on his platform, that's probably the use of his time that is most likely to enact the change he wants to see - which is to change the people who are in office
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but he isn't supporting any advocates for his beliefs. he's calling the democrats bad and saying the solution is to leave; no productive alternative. at least people like sacks or elon are endorsing an alternative...this is 100% net negative on the US.
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