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Vitalik Buterin
@vitalik.eth
Cross-posting a thought on staking from the other app: ------ Perhaps we should recognize that 32 ETH is much more of a barrier for stakers than bandwidth reqs, and temporarily do a trade where we up the bandwidth reqs a bit and in exchange drop the staking deposit minimum to eg. 16 or 24 ETH. It's net-good for both staking accessibility and scale. Then once we figure out peerdas, bandwidth reqs go back down, and once we figure out orbit SSF, the deposit minimum can drop to 1 ETH.
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Mac Budkowski ᵏ
@macbudkowski
+1, it's easier to find a good Internet connection than lock in $80k
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Vitalik Buterin
@vitalik.eth
I do think the phenomenon of people who have $10m but are too lazy to figure out how to upgrade their internet is very real, and of course each one of them solo staking means up to $10m not in the hands of an institutional staker or LST, so I don't want to lean on the argument *too much*. But I think even despite this, on balance reducing min deposits is more important than reducing min performance reqs, and we haven't quite appreciated this.
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I feel like the problem is not just the ETH, hardware and uplink cost but people being concerned about the required infra ops. Most staking explainers make it sound like you need to monitor your setup 24/7 or you risk losing money. This scares "normal" people enough, they would never think about running their own node. They are like "oh so if I go on vacation I could lose all my staked ETH, yeah no thanks"
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