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Alex
@asenderling.eth
This tweet demonstrates the intellectual bankruptcy of the left. Once you're already at the worst possible description you lose a sense of nuance or daylight between Trump's policy and Harris'. The practical result is full ethnic cleansing and 1,000s of lives. https://x.com/NathanJRobinson/status/1886937360920666438
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Stuart
@olystuart
That's Harris's and the Dems fault not the left's. Several hundred thousand people, mostly children, were killed by the last Dem admin in Palestine in a campaign that is credibly described as genocide by the international courts. The left didn't just make that up. Trump is the fault of the Clintons, of the plutocrat control of the Dems and their decades of corruption. They had a chance to go clean and start cleaning up the corruption by allowing the people to democratically choose Bernie but decided to rig their Primaries instead to maintain the crime, leading to Trump. The Dems fought a war against the left instead of compromising with us and they should take responsibility for the consequences.
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MM
@listen2mm.eth
One of the main problems I have with this line of thinking “Trump is the Dems’ fault,” “Israeli actions are the Dems’ fault or US’s fault,” etc is it is a never ending rabbit hole of blame with no way out of it. If Trump is the Clinton’s and Dems’ fault, then seems fair to say the Dems and Rs are the lefts fault. Why hasn’t the left been better and strong enough to stop Dems? Is it the conservatives’ fault for the way Dems and leftists are? Where did the buck stop? If Trump is the Clintons fault, then the Clintons must be Reagan’s fault, and Reagan is Carter’s fault, and Carter is Nixon’s fault, so on and so forth until the dawn of time
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Stuart
@olystuart
That's fair, though I would say the root of it is American imperialism and capitalism. As long as it's an empire it will do evil things and be undemocratic.
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MM
@listen2mm.eth
I probably agree with that. Our form of capitalism drives imperialism, and imperialism drives capitalism. Genuine question - do we stop being an empire when we stop funding wars? Or more open ended phrasing, how do we stop being an empire?
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Stuart
@olystuart
That's my main political guiding light really, that we can't just paper over all the harms the US has caused we need a radical shift to restorative justice and healing efforts. What exactly that would look like and how to get there I'm not sure. Clearly stating that intent and then following through would be critical for the world to believe it. Unite humanity to collaborate on solving our collective existential crises. 🤷‍♂️
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