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Max Jackson
@mxjxn.eth
Starting my day researching IPFS providers. Building an NFT tool for /cryptoart and /muse and trying to be very cautious of runaway expenses. I can imagine if i were enable video minting, costs could skyrocket quickly. And seeing the costs of arweave pinning, I cannot fathom how @manifoldxyz affords it.
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Max Jackson
@mxjxn.eth
The easiest approach and the one I'll likely take is to use pinata.cloud for now, and set a maximium file-size for media. I previously worked at an NFT startup which used IPFS but did not pay for any ipfs providers, and many of those links have already rotted. I feel like the two-tier /cryptoart @hypersub will be a good solution for enabling greater file-sizes. but what happens in the case when a single person mints 1000 NFTs all of maximum file-size, and my pinning costs become higher than my subscription revenue? I'm thinking way too far into the future with these questions, but I am genuinely wondering how major platforms like @rarible manage it.
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JonnieSparkles
@jonniesparkles
You're going to face the same link rot and lost asset issues as everyone else unless you use a "pre paid" solution like Arweave or the NFT's native token chain. Anything else is just pushing the problem to the future. Once the bills stop getting paid the asset goes away.
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Max Jackson
@mxjxn.eth
Yes for sure, important point. Arweave Is so pricey in comparison to ipfs. I wonder how manifold can afford it. I would have to calculate the cost at mint time and bake it into the minting transaction. Not sure what alternative there is
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JonnieSparkles
@jonniesparkles
I look at it as paying for a premium. An NFT with the asset stored "unruggably" is more valuable to me. Does everyone care? Probably not l, esp if its a quick flip, but those that get it do. Its also one of those "you don't appreciate what you've got until its gone" things. Happy to hook you up with Turbo storage credit if you'd like to give it a shot for Arweave. https://docs.ardrive.io/docs/turbo/what-is-turbo.html There's also an entire rabbit hole to go down with ar.io to dynamically route to the Arweave asset from a decentralized gateway network.
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Moon
@moon.eth
We used IPFS for Curio Cards and it worked out well for us because basically, if someone who owns one of the cards cares enough about their NFT, they can pin it or pay someone to pin it to keep it alive, kind of works like a community thing. Just need one person to pony up.
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