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tldr (tim reilly)
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Wanted to discuss @dwr.eth take that Paul Atriedes is supposed to be more like a “Darth Vader” than a “Luke” (ie that he followed a darker path of power by pursuing the Messiah prophecy) Disclaimer: I haven’t read the books. But I didn’t experience the movie that way. 1/2
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tldr (tim reilly)
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I experienced it as Paul seeing with clarity that, although he preferred a more idealistic path (one where he stays authentic to both true love and true speech) he discovers that the only way to achieve the desired outcome is to engage in politics — ie, marital alliance (false love) and rhetoric (false speech) 2/3
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Matthew Barton
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What is his desired outcome? Revenge seems naturally immoral to me if he’s a messianic figure. Everyone in politics has their empire…
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tldr (tim reilly)
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Right I forgot about that being a big motivation. I also thought he was trying to actually get a good outcome for the people as well. Is there anything to suggest that his desire for revenge was countering his mission to liberate the people?
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Matthew Barton
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They are aligned for now as you hint at. I’m suggesting that we don’t know Paul’s desired outcome. When will revenge be achieved? What comes after that? My sense is that he himself doesn’t have a desired outcome. He optimizes for the short term. I’m reminded of Ben Hur
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tldr (tim reilly)
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I guess it's a "glass half full" (of worm piss) kind of thing
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