Matthew
@matthew
wow, how could this have happened? https://x.com/agarwal/status/1913114170800972251?s=46
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Chaotic Neutral
@jayce
Ive read a few of these and discussed this with @zachharris.eth Thing is we’ve got a quasi-7x7 island, so logically it’s pretty easy to put a lid on things. Even when things were “bad” it was mostly just fashionable to gripe about crime. Nothing is ever as bad as people enjoy saying whether it is on price, traffic, crime, whatever
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Matthew
@matthew
There was a marc andreessen clip at one point about all his friends that stayed in SF during covid did so subconsciously because they like to complain about it. I agree with you and him, but it was actually terrible for a while. There are still issues... for example a few weeks ago someone got shot at near me, outside the argonaut in fisherman's wharf. But it's getting better.
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✿ ZACH HARRIS ✿
@zachharris.eth
Don’t you think that’s the temperature of planet rn? More violence, anger, rage, powerlessness, coming to a head against the landed gentry who have displaced the native peoples.
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Matthew
@matthew
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✿ ZACH HARRIS ✿
@zachharris.eth
The trend of affordable housing in the Bay Area isn’t upward. It has gotten worse over the last 30 yrs. As a result, I think people who have been displaced or marginalized have gotten more hostile and violent toward the gentrifiers. I’m not sure what percentage of violent crimes are perpetrated by people with mental health conditions but would imagine high. Because desirable locations tend to go first, I bet the tax base doesn’t support the resources required for increased mental health support.
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Matthew
@matthew
The tax base does support more housing and support for homelessness / mental illness. The issue is they have watched the city spend an insane amount on the problem with nothing to show for it. RE crime, most of it is not by homelessness, it's by organized criminals using them as a PR shield. shoplifting, drug dealing, car breakins, etc... very little of that is the people you see on the street living in tents.
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✿ ZACH HARRIS ✿
@zachharris.eth
That’s interesting, I thought there would’ve been a stronger correlation between the two. Is the inefficiency a function of corruption too? I guess if there is a costa nostra quotient living in the underbelly that has been there pre and post gentrification that’s another story.
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Matthew
@matthew
probably in part yes. why does it matter if it's pre vs post gentrification? if someone comes in illegally from another country and starts selling drugs, they're not "gentrified". there was this whole meta on twitter of "you were burglarized but it's your fault because the criminal was marginalized" during the pandemic that I think is absolutely bananas. crime is illegal.
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✿ ZACH HARRIS ✿
@zachharris.eth
In theory post gentrification you're growing retail, commercial and residential real estate value, which contribute more taxes to support more public servants like Police and DEA to get them off the streets
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