if you are interested in building web3 products and not interested in meme tokens, I'm not interested in the web3 products you are building 

don't tell me you don't care about the culture you plan to sell stuff too 

convince me how you'll get the culture to care about you

the memes are great. that's what people loved about bitcoin, doge, and other subcultural corners.

wrt meme stocks, there's a culture of experiences & being the underdog.

once there's a hot ball of money, there's new behavior like mudslinging, gaslighting, etc.

geeks, mops, & sociopaths are ever thus.

https://meaningness.com/geeks-mops-sociopaths

in other words, once it's clear the token only exists b/c enough money is already circulating, it's okay to say some meme tokens are S-tier & the pseudointellectual, high FDV/liquidity derivatives are D-tier WIP at the very best.

there are horrible aspects of meme coins, and I like plenty of products that have nothing to do with memecoins, I just don't like people who have no respect for the culture they are trying to sell into