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Jacek just announced they are cooking up the allowances going forward (not this season). Notes of staking/locking up to incentivize long-term holders rather than farmers. 

I feel like this is a good move. Incentivizing the holders rather than those who try to game the system. 

What are your thoughts?

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I agree!

Make people use the L3 should be a priority.

I'd rather see them focus on the L3 they've spun up than change the algos every 3-4 weeks. 

- Tokens should be distributed + claimed via the L3, you should also have a balance on the L3, moving away from Base. 
- Getting an NFT marketplace on the chain should also be a priority. 
- Bridging USDC / wETH with good liquidity. 

Basically, use the chain they have created.

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If you don't have the time to be here frequently, arrange a group that can provide ongoing feedback. Avoid shouting out decisions at the same time a dump is happening as this can send the wrong message, especially if they can be related somehow, even if it wasn't your intent.

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Allowance system is changing again. Who in the community are the DEGEN team listening to? Almost everyone I’ve talked to really likes the new allowance system. 

It’s not a good look to continue changing things so rapidly. It gives me major “we’re trying to fix the current downtrend in price” vibes. 

Did we really even give the new @openrank allowance system enough time to cook before deciding to try something else?

I think this is very dangerous tbh. 

Here's my two cents:

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I agree to a certain part 

Nothing is final yet and its still up for them to cook 

But I think incentivizing holders to stake/lock is good but that shouldn't be the only metric still. There are a lot of issues with openrank in terms of people getting big allowances without much reputation and I still think that needs fixing. 

The challenge to the team is to find a balance (liquidity, participants, investors, etc) which isnt very easy atm 

I'm glad that they're bringing this up right now so there is still a few weeks to improve this

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I think this is very dangerous tbh. 

Here's my two cents:

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yuppp, i think it should be staggered 

1 year might be too long for some

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If you can ladder the lockups. There should be different incentives for 1 mo, 3 mo, 6 mo, etc. 1 yr or nothing won't work well, imo.

This is the right method at this point. Some thoughts are in this tweet

This is the right method at this point. Some thoughts are in this tweet

https://x.com/0xZOZ/status/1801638375797231687

What I think I Totally agree with @jacek announcements.

It's a smart strategy to reward long-term holders. 

This will help create a more stable and committed community, reducing the influence of short-term speculators. 

Excited to see how this will strengthen the project @kylepatrick.eth

Yep, the challenge for them is to strike a right balance -- no perfect solution to solve all the loopholes/sybils but trying to keep it at a minimum would be great

I love that we're all having this conversation now rather than later

All boils down to whether or not it incentivizes the right kind of behavior. The price collapse is, at least in part, a function of chronically incentivizing the /wrong/ behavior; ie, staking /for/ allowances because they can be trivially sybil'd.

We've had bad success.
How about good success?

Really nice one
They really are listening to the community

Sounds good to me, holders add more value to the token, so why not

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Here is the plan I mentioned at the beginning of the season.

i think so too. May it have a positive impact on degen.

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I’m just afraid they make any kind of differentiation between those who have more value in staking vs. those who have less. It would take us to the problem of centralizing allowance in the hands of those with more money and that would really be a sad move in what is supposed to be a more decentralized environment on that matter 😔

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I agree with the holding! Makes the price stabilized too

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Idk but everyone is salty abt it but I support this! 

The more degen you hold, the higher your allowance would be! 

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I think incentivizing holders will only be good until to a certain degree

If so, only the same players will play with degen and that wont be good for the long term too

I like that they're thinking about this right now 

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i like the idea of staking but it will be unbalanced if allowance is determined by hm you stake because this will only benefit deep pockets and the small users will have no chance no matter how much of a good content they cast, or value added

Make sure to give up when it gets really hard

I agree, I don't think its the right thing to just focus on staking/locking up

It can help but only up to a certain degree

Social Rank is flawed but its one of the working things we currently have, so I hope that stays partly 

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There are already examples in replies how yield tokens with high emissions always head south, lockup or not.

It's not a bad change, it just feels rushed. Also if the social rank dependence won't play any role, any onboarding of new users will be halted.