Sanjay
@sanjay
Both @neynar and @warpcast are reading/writing to Snapchain now. If youâre using Hubble, you should migrate to use snapchain exclusively and let us know if you run into any issues. https://docs.farcaster.xyz/hubble/migrating https://warpcast.notion.site/Snapchain-Mainnet-Public-1b96a6c0c101809493cfda3998a65c7a?pvs=4
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KMacđ â©
@kmacb.eth
If we are hitting an open hub via grpc - what needs to happen? eg assume rhe hub operator migrates to snapchain, what will we app devs have to do?
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Andrei O.
@andrei0x309
Nothing for now, but at some point not very far in the future, hubs will cease to work. I haven't seen anyone providing a public open node. At that point, you will be forced to either run a node or buy one.
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KMacđ â©
@kmacb.eth
Thanks. Whatâs your take on how we can make this more open? IF im understanding this correctly, the ecosystem would benefit from a lot of public read nodes & (iirc!) they forward the writes to a smaller set of permissioned nodes.
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Andrei O.
@andrei0x309
My take is that the Merkel team should provide 1-2 open nodes. This is similar to how many L2 projects offer open RPC nodes. A node is useful for both reading and writing to the network, but it has some costs. It's called "Snapchain", for such open networks it is common to provide a test network and public nodes for both test and mainnet environments. If a test environment is too much to ask for, at least 1-2 open nodes should be provided. However, in the last dev call, the Warpcast team said they would not provide any such public nodes. So, if no one steps in to provide them, then no open nodes will be available.
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KMacđ â©
@kmacb.eth
Thought I heard there were read only nodes đ€·đ»ââïž I take it all this code is open as Hubble repo was so it wonât be long before there are âpublicâ nodes & an incentive scheme for operators proposed. A type of gas token
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Andrei O.
@andrei0x309
Nodes will be able to read/write, even if they aren't validators, by write is understood that you can forward the write request to the network. The actual "write" is done by validators which will probably be on a static allowlist. There isn't any incentive to run a node if you don't run a client. The only incentive is to help the network to be more open, which should be an incentive to Warpcast team but apparently is not. But you're right that if there's anyone willing to help and cover the costs it is possible.
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KMacđ â©
@kmacb.eth
Ahh making sense now ty. Havenât had time to keep up & if itâs like Hubble will change way too much to build on anytime soon. Hmm neynar doesnât have a client & they def have an incentive. Point isnât to disagree w you but to open this part of the stack up to more innovation by dropping gatekeeping & incentivizing operators to compete & cooperate in open markets. Healthy market tension not serfs & fiefdoms.
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