Dan Romero
@dwr.eth
A bit puzzled by the people who continue to insist that open channels without any gating or spam filtering would work just fine. When I mention there would be a lot of spam, they tell me I'm wrong or they would manually weed it out. We tried that for the last year and it didn't work. Very few channel owners / moderators wanted to do the drudgery of cleaning up spammy casts. It's not fun or rewarding. And that's logical on their end! The reason web2 doesn't have this problem: 1. The successful companies like Meta or YouTube have *10s of thousands* of ops people moderating the platform; they also have massive data sets and AI models to help 2. They are centralized. They can *delete* spammy accounts and there's no recourse. 3. X / Twitter got rid of most of their ops people, so you see *a lot* more spam on there. Additionally, #hashtags on Twitter have been spammy for 10 years. Just look at the following link: https://x.com/hashtag/Ethereum
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Michael Depetrillo
@klassicd
If mods are too busy to cleanup spam, they surely won't have the time to vet and approve members. Can members report spam to moderators? Do you boost spam score or auto remove from credible reporters? Have you considered downvotes like Reddit to get more data? Why did automod shutdown, what infra are 3rd party mods lacking? Spam is a solvable tech issue. Twitter reply spam has improved greatly. Gmail catches 99%. Mod lethargy may be due to focus on crypto users, who are inundated with grifts/scams constantly and just auto ignore it. Warpcaster needs non-crypto communities who aren't accustomed to it.
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Dan Romero
@dwr.eth
> If mods are too busy to cleanup spam, they surely won't have the time to vet and approve members. Yes, but the community doesn't suffer if you don't want to do the work. With content moderation, the moment you stop, the spam gets really bad. Member-based is more sustainable. Farming out work to other people doesn't seem to work. A few dedicated groups had people willing, but for the most part, people can't be bothered. It's a lot of work for no / minimal reward. > Spam is a solvable issue Easier said than done. :) Agree on the crypto point. We have more spammy accounts because crypto makes spammy activity EV+.
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