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@brunomp
These GENIUSES took off my frens badge ahahahhaha like I care… So, here are the new RED FLAG for this project: There is an influencer that has been shilling Phaver and today, he is hosting a space about Phaver.. In my humble opinion they should invite someone that actually uses the app, not someone that has posted for the last time 2 years ago… They are just trying to pump the token (despite they saying they don’t care about price that they are building) They blame the farmers, they blame the market, they blame everything but they don’t take responsability… CEO stays all day on TG, he should have been working instead of traveling and having fun on other apps… The new reward system will give 20% yield for anyone that stake Social, that means that you don’t need to use the app to get yield, and that means, another big dump after S2 ends because they are attracting “investors” not users… Take profit or cut your losses (NFA)
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Appreciate any feedback always and we do make all of the decisions based on listening to a lot of user viewpoints, that is a key reason I spent some of my time in the frontline talking to users in various chats, it’s not about having fun, nor are any of the trips to secure investments or partnerships. I work 12+ hours per day to keep the ship moving and trying to determine the best course for it. As for Mario’s space, he is a very early investor in Phaver and therefore invited us on his space which is the biggest one in all of X. This is to get exposure to more users which helps both the app user growth and hopefully also token. Since Mario has built an empire on X and is personal friends with Elon, unfortunately have not gotten him to phave actively yet. On Frens badges, new much stricter activity criteria were introduced and around 70% of the badges were removed ahead of relaunching a more scalable version of the badge. As an L5 you would seem to be active so happy to check again. The 20% yield…
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@brunomp
Never said team sold any token and never cared about TGE. If you look at all my messages here I always said that TGE was the best possible and that the tokenomics are good. My problem here is simple, this app will die, because s1 was based on farming (see my post from 7 months ago, superpost, creators and phaving 2.0 basically made things horrible here) Now you are imagining that people would dump on S2, these people looking for yield will dump some of the holders that lost the ATH are only holding to get more tokens on S2 so they can dump everything to get more USD, because now, they will get less USD, so they think it is better to wait 30 days and profit more.. it will be another big dump I don’t care about the token, I sold at ATH and was going to re-enter but I won’t and I have my reasons to.. I think team is too worried about token price, I know that to get more users it needs to go up, but it won’t, if you still want to keep this app as a farm, farmers will suck all the liquidity About Mario, I…
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Would love to hear how to make the app better in your opinion. We do our best to find a model that rewards for real usage and value created but it’s almost impossible to detract the farmers no matter what we do. We listen to people and feedback on the product very closely, just trying to figure out a sustainable SocialFi model here which is a massive opportunity but also never been done before so it’s all trial and error and iterations. As for Mario, if he offers us a massive reach for free, not really worth declining that because if him not being an active user. If anything, maybe we lure him back in.
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@brunomp
First, thank you for the opportunity, I will try to write the most I can and I would really love to hear a feedback from you about what I wrote. The problem in my opinion is the content quality. Using Phaver is not fun (for me at least). I know that the team can’t control the quality of the posts but as it is today the app is focused on rewarding PEOPLE not CONTENT. All the points go to creators or contributors. Some of them deserve the badge but to speak the truth, a lot of them got the badges because they were making posts praising Phaver. So, as the system works today, these creators will post anything and they will get more points than a L2 user that post an amazing content. One of the reason for this is because people phave for points. Almost nobody will phave a great post if it is from a new user because they won’t get a good return for their phave. In the long run, these L2 (or any other level without badges) will just stop posting, because they don’t get anything (if they do superpost they…
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I 100% agree with this feedback, elevating the actually good content vs certain users outside video is insanely hard. TikTok makes it work because video avg view times are a solid and hard-to-game metric but likes are corrupt and flawed on every app, and you can’t evaluate text quality based on time spent or only long texts win. This is why we have Phaves, and the reason we moved to the new system was to incentivize users to pick the actually best posts and also to have a way to earn without having to post as that also caused spam posting. The unfortunate impact is still farmers trying to pick the most obvious targets despite most of the time not getting almost any reward on them (being one of 1000 on a post gets you maybe 1 Point). Really trying to figure out the ways to incentivize real use but disincentivize farming and gaming the system, all ideas are appreciated. Also agree on lack of comments and trying to solve that by adding phaving on comments as well in the near future to make them equally …
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@brunomp
Thank you for you reply. I will stick around to see the changes, I hope you succeed🙏🏻 will stop my rage posts now (although it got a lot of interactions, just kidding) good luck to you
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Joonatan | Phaver CEO
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Yeah would be a lot more helpful if you go straight to the actual feedback items vs rageposting first 😅 Always open to it and as you can see the reason I spend time here and TG is to get to the real feedback and frustrations by users so we can address them.
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Good morning, I am not going to post anything bad and this is already an old thread so nobody will read this (I don’t want nobody to read, I am writing to you and this is the only way I have) so, what I want to say is that, do you realize that everybody that bought Social for the 20% yield has already lost more than that in the last 24H. Do you think that those people will hold? And my point is, you are attracting investors (before it was farmers) and many won’t take much of a loss, so, please, focus on the product and less about rewarding money. I write this with only good intentios, not fudding or trying to be funny! Good luck🤍
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Yeah the remaining Bybit launchpools autoreleasing last night into an already bad market was definitely not a welcome combo… We’re not really doing that to attract generic investors, though, but serve as an easy minimum for Season 2 where due to a cap on total tokens released we can’t give people their earnings number in any other way beforehand. In general as long as not 100% of net new buyers sell it is still a net positive. And we do focus on the product but I can’t get the SocialFi features out any faster by not also managing token any way we still can.
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@brunomp
To be honest, I really think you are in a very difficult situation right now. People will always judge the product based on the token price and I don’t see a reason to buy the token. I am talking about myself, I had 61k allocation (I didn’t have nft connected because I was trading them and in the end it was the right bet, but this doesn’t matter) I sold 55k at .017 and was planning to buy 125-150k in the dip.. the thing is, the only benefit I know that I will get is that I will get more tokens on S2 but, if I invest 500 usd now, how much will I get in 30 days? I still see a big dump coming until the end of S2, with this new proposal passing, I will wait until 7 of October to see what I will do, because the 30 day avarage starts there. I just don’t see a reason to buy.. again, I am not fudding, I am just trying to share my thoughts with you in a civilized manner (the bad ways were always mine, not yours, and I am sorry for that. I am Brazilian and Brazilians are emotional people) again, wish you goo…
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Definitely agree on the difficult situation, but it’s not the first and likely not the last time either so gotta keep cooking 🫠 And yeah S2 is a problem as we can’t cancel it either but what was meant to be a holding utility is also partially a buying deterrent in this market (and talking about the market showing most recent Bybit launches down massively and Binance ones too, despite still holding higher fdvs there). Need to find a way around it
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Good luck! If I think something useful, I will tag you here! Have a great day
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