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Michael Gingras (lilfrog)
@frog
Is it possible (within legal bounds of DUNA) to fully eliminate refund? Imo, the fork was designed for minority protection, not for RQ or refund. If we have to eliminate fork for legal reasons related to DUNA, it doesn't make sense to me that it's replaced with a refund mechanism. The point of fork was never for refunds (although that's what it turned out to be used for...) The DAO is better off without refunds.
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Michael Gingras (lilfrog)
@frog
I have some criticisms of the proposed refund mechanism mainly around how streaming auction proceeds over years means the dao is significantly capped in it's ability to deploy the treasury. I like how past nouns do not get access to this refund mechanism so there is no way to arb anymore. But, my opinion is that we don't need a refund at all. If you buy a noun, you buy a noun. No refunds, no returns. All sales final. Try your luck on secondary if you want to get rid of it.
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Elad
@el4d
we can decided to have no refund at all. we are suggesting this because we believe this does provide useful minority protection.
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Michael Gingras (lilfrog)
@frog
good to know it's possible. so far, I don't think we've seen any true effort of a minority using the fork for protection. My opinion is that the benefits of minority protection do not outweigh the costs of enabling an easy refund. not for me alone to decide of course, but I think we'd be better off without it. Thanks for the spec and sharing thoughts though, it's cool and useful regardless of my opinions on if its in the dao best interest
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Sasquatch テ
@sasquatch
strong preference for no refund as well. buyer beware, we like to fund weird things
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Joshua Fisher ⌐◨-◨
@joshuafisher.eth
At this point it’s very clear what Nouns is about and what you’re getting into…not so clear at first which is why I thought Fork was an attempt at being fair to those that didn’t know and didn’t want to be a part of it anymore…tldr I agree with @sasquatch
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Ben
@jarmen
I see the initial fork slightly differently, think it was designed to ensure the project could continue in the wanted direction of the founders, as without the place was about to hard pivot to something different. It was built on the back of “opportunity” of a few but the dao offered a carrot to help keep the ship sailing in a somewhat desirable direction.
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