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Anyone else have a grand Cherokee 4xe (or wrangler I guess) and think the hybrid system is garbage?  Speed sucks.  Gas mileage sucks.  Can’t run electric only for any meaningful time because they force you to use gas so it doesn’t go bad (understandable).  Completely manic electric/gas distribution in hybrid mode.

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that thing was so great at first, then soooo bad.

the braking in the gc is way better than the volvo.  THATS HOW THEY TRICK YOU

I feel like my Volvo experience was your warning for this, hybrid is the worst of both worlds

Yes.  Agreed. I really just think Jeeps suck and are hella over priced and poorly made. I’ve heard good things about the newer Grand Cherokee, but I’d never own one again. Cherokee, Grand Cherokee, and a Liberty…all died/blew up around 125,000 - 150,000 miles.

I'm seeing anywhere from 17mpg to 20mpg in town.  The lack of battery use in hybrid mode its partially due to the cold (it doesn't seem to like sub 50degrees), but its cold here in montana 7-8 months of the year.  I've had 5 grand cherokees.  The last one was a 3.6l L, got maybe 20 in town.  The v8's all got 16ish.

It's still relatively new to FCA vehicles and it is by no means an all-electric system. Hybrid mode has a bit of an "all or nothing" throttle feel to it. I thought the 2.0t had enough power for the brick-shaped truck tho. I'm curious to know what kind of real-world fuel mileage you're seeing that concerns you?

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I’d more believe that manufacturers are just barely crossing off the checklist to get federal incentives, and not really focused on building a better system.

I’ve seen more and more conspiracy videos lately that ev/hybrids suck on purpose to keep us gridlocked into the oil dependency where we havent really meaningfully increased gas mileage in a long time.