consciousness

Are we just a pattern? Of patterns? https://paragraph.xyz/@mirrorandloom/the-observer-paradox

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Spot on! No, not rhetorical exactly, more of a lead-in to the next parts I'll be putting out. But I agree and plan to go into your point. There are limits to human understanding (going back to origins of patterns) and probably to understanding at upper level as well (how far computation or any kind of AI can get us)

Title drives at your question: "The mirror and the loom" refers to a key imagery from Alfred Lord Tennyson's poem "The Lady of Shalott," where the Lady is forced to observe the outside world only through a mirror and then weave what she sees onto her loom, symbolizing her isolation and inability to directly experience reality due to a mysterious curse; the mirror represents her restricted view, while the loom represents her artistic expression through weaving these reflected images.

Interesting piece, thank you for sharing! 🤍 

Is the final question rhetorical? Because what comes before seems to suggest that there is no end to recursion. My intuition is that the limit is only that which we are able to perceive. 

100 $degen

I’m pretty much a Daoist and you’ll notice the “original pattern” is pretty much a yin-yang, so yes. Also familiar with co-dependent arising. 😀Complexity at Santa Fe Institute also crosses similar bounds. Will check out Qualia but honestly want to steer clear of consciousness question even if i think this might be a better lower level, axiomatic model than IIT.

The people at Qualia Research Institute are traversing similar territory, you might want to check them out and get in conversation to battle test your ideas.

It's also interesting to observe that Buddhism speaks of this paradox through the lens of dependent origination, and you might find more there too. 

Good luck with the book!