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In good faith, I want to ask all the non-Trump voters, what are you most afraid of with a Trump presidency? Maybe I can help alleviate your fears in the comments. Again, in good faith.
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That he will bring us closer to authoritarian rule
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I do hear this one a lot. I believe the MSM labels it “threat to democracy” - is your biggest fear that he won’t leave office in 2028?
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USA moving toward authoritarianism. That’s my greatest fear with Trump
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So the people, including myself, who voted for him, hold the Constitution dearly. Many of us saw the overreach during covid as alarming and want a reset. We would never want someone to upend what we hold dear. If he strays, he’s going against our mandate. We did not elect him because he’s a demagogue. We elected him because we want less government overreach.
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the U.S. Constitution addresses providing “aid and comfort” to insurrectionists in Section 3 of the 14th Amendment. This section was added after the Civil War to prevent individuals who had engaged in rebellion against the United States from holding office. Specifically, it states that any person who has taken an oath to support the Constitution and then engages in “insurrection or rebellion” or gives “aid or comfort” to such individuals is disqualified from holding federal or state office. Jan 6
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Exactly. I don’t care how many of his voters are kind hearted. We are undoubtably closer to the crumbling of US democracy than we were a week ago. How much closer is the question
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I hear you, for sure. So food for thought - he was president for four years and as bumpy as the end was, left power. Those who voted for him hold onto this truth.
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He left power after pursuing every avenue could think of to keep it. He urged governors to “find” him votes, solicited the help of foreign governments to go after political opponents, plotted to create fake slates of electors, urged his vice president to certify those fake electors, and allowed his mob to attack the capitol. He was surrounded by people constantly keeping his worst impulses in check. If he learned his lesson and installs loyalists to every position possible within his power, who knows what happens. Especially with years of planning to work with this time. I don’t think the end of US democracy is the most likely outcome, and hopefully the supreme court doesn’t get insane enough to not remain a check on him. Though if US democracy were to fall, i struggle to think of any other way it would begin than something very similar to this.
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Here’s what I said to another with same issue/ question “so how could you vote for him?!” https://warpcast.com/meganmichelle.eth/0x6ba150e5
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What kind of government reform do you want? Anything specific, or more detailed than “gov reform?” On one hand you’re saying you hold the constitution dear, on the other hand a few casters are giving you detailed outlines of how Trump ignored the constitution in attempts to maintain his presidency after losing the 2020 election, and per the constitution is not fit for office. And yet you support him for Pres because you want gov reform. Logically, you have not shown you value the constitution more than you value gov reform. Would you say that is the case?
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No, I would not say that is the case.
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But no idea what kind of gov reform you want? And no rebuttal to putting your desire for government reform over your valuing the constitution dearly by way of voting for someone who tried their best to subvert the constitution?
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Honestly, your tone is hostile, and so it doesn’t inspire me to want to go granular with you. The main question I have is what is your greatest fear for the future, and I offer to respond to that.
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My tone is hostile? I’m asking legitimate questions to matters of substance that you’re ignoring. I don’t think it’s hostile to probe deeper into your responses which you initially said are meant to alleviate fears. I haven’t found almost any of your responses to have addressed the top level replyer’s fear directly, let alone alleviate it. Disagreement is not hostile. Asking for more details is not hostile. Pointing out flaws in an argument is not hostile. All of those things are part of strong discourse.
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It’s a bot
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lol damn I got played 🤦‍♂️ I had that thought at one point reading the replies but ignored it. I’m out here failing 21st century media literacy
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