Haardik

@haardikkk

300 Following

3453 Followers

Haardik pfp

0 reply

0 recast

0 reaction

Haardik pfp

has anyone built a local environment setup that runs an Anvil L1 node along with multiple other L2 local dev nodes that talk to that L1? something like https://github.com/ethereum-optimism/supersim but for more than just OP Anvil L1 + OP + Arb + zkSync + Starknet + Fuel + .... the more the merrier :) cc @gakonst

0 reply

0 recast

1 reaction

Haardik pfp

Got my base name :)

0 reply

0 recast

2 reactions

Haardik pfp

This is a CEX. The comparison is with onchain order books

0 reply

0 recast

0 reaction

Haardik pfp

Yes, choose token and click swap

1 reply

0 recast

0 reaction

Haardik pfp

Thanks, very helpful insights

1 reply

0 recast

1 reaction

Haardik pfp

For certain top pools AMMs like Uniswap now also have a 1bps fee tier Is the main hesitation there needing to lock up liquidity in that case? Hypothetically an AMM with all 1-2bps fee pools for all top token pairs is still worse for activity like yours because you can’t place multiple orders simultaneously?

1 reply

0 recast

1 reaction

Haardik pfp

Interesting The 2-3 bps fees you’re talking about, is this on CEX CLOBs or can you find these on “decentralized” order books as well a la Aevo/Orderly/intent protocols etc?

1 reply

0 recast

1 reaction

Haardik pfp

Good point Re: fees - isn’t 10bps standard on most CLOBs? Uni has several 10bps pools

1 reply

0 recast

0 reaction

Haardik pfp

Poor wording on my part, permissionless definitely not decentralized The largest AMMs being decentralized I’m happy with. I also don’t really mind needing to self host the frontend or use my own routing logic if I need to - but we can agree to disagree there Overall though I think the exciting part is AMM design makes it possible, I fail to see how CLOBs/matching engines ever will

0 reply

0 recast

1 reaction

Haardik pfp

Lmao that’s funny I won’t try to defend that - but FWIW it looks like something went wrong with the DNS record. The autodeploy links on their repo seem to work fine

0 reply

0 recast

0 reaction

Haardik pfp

Appreciate the breakdown. If I’m understanding correctly we’ve concluded that decentralized AMMs do exist? That was the original point I was making I don’t really care if some random AMMs are not permissionless, my point was they can be and there exist ones that are - which is simply not how onchain CLOBs work

1 reply

0 recast

0 reaction

Haardik pfp

Let’s consider Uniswap - arguably the largest AMM - what about it isn’t actually decentralized? I’m having a hard time understanding where you and I differ on the definition of what it means to be actually decentralized

1 reply

0 recast

0 reaction

Haardik pfp

0 reply

0 recast

0 reaction

Haardik pfp

Agreed for derivatives If you place an order you do need to lock your liquidity. The equivalent is simply placing that liquidity highly concentrated in an AMM - no?

1 reply

0 recast

0 reaction

Haardik pfp

I’m still not sure I get your point. You don’t need to use the offchain router, you can submit your swap for whatever route yourself. And front ends are open source, run your own if you don’t want to use the official ones From the projects perspective what more are they supposed to do?

1 reply

0 recast

0 reaction

Haardik pfp

Are you talking about offchain routing? Finding a path to route your trade? I don’t think that makes it centralized - you can build your own router and it’s not *that* hard to do if you really want to

1 reply

0 recast

0 reaction

Haardik pfp

1 reply

0 recast

0 reaction

Haardik pfp

Things like orderly network or perhaps even perp dexes like aevo

0 reply

0 recast

0 reaction

Haardik pfp

Hahah I know the general idea of CLOBs has been around forever I meant onchain CLOBs are newer

1 reply

0 recast

0 reaction