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Whig history — I used to take for granted this historiographical analog to thermodynamics’ arrow of time. But I have also observed the steady decline in the democracy index since the early 2000s, the rise to prominence of illiberal states such as China, the re-election of dark enlightenment-adjacent leaders such as Donald Trump (influenced by JD Vance and Peter Thiel, themselves influenced by Curtis Yarvin who wrote at length against Whig history), the seeming lack of ability for liberal democracies (such as those in Western Europe) to come together, etc. All these trend indicators that make me question whether history does indeed progress (in every acception of the word) toward a more liberal, open, democratic, and tolerant future; or if the Enlightenment period of the 18th century and the temporarily-settled post-colonial world order after WW2 were really transient anomalies, and we are simply now witnessing a reversal to the mean, which I view as the single most powerful force in the universe.
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Certainly should at least give pause for thought to the people who have built their identity and life’s purpose around the idea of progress; whether it be social, cultural or technological. If reversion to the mean is the most powerful force in the universe, then what is the last 275 years of complex industrial society if not a historically anomalous Sigma 6 event that is statistically due for correction?
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I didn’t want to include technological progress in my line of thinking, because I don’t think we’ve ever witnessed a net regression on that front in recorded history — merely brief periods of relative stagnation, like the Middle Ages. And of course, technological progress has brought undeniable net benefits such as food security, longevity and health, etc. over time. My concern, instead, is specifically about the governance models of society, and how they adapt (or fail to adapt) to a changing and globalizing world. We have incredible tech at our disposal but we’re still the same bipedal apes with tribal mentalities. The wetware hasn’t kept up with everything else. And if Homo sapiens remains the same, and the tech itself is agnostic (can be used to either enhance or erode liberties), then there isn’t an obvious case for net societal progress, as opposed to mere periodic oscillations around the mean (which we might mistake for a direction in history due to our short lifespans and memories)
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Probably true that we haven’t witnessed a net regression in technological progress in the 5000 years of recorded history, at least not a significant, long lasting one or universal one. But of course the whole 10,000 years since the agricultural revolution could be viewed as deviation from the norm in the context of 300,000 years of human existence. Even the 300,000 years of higher human intelligence could be viewed as an anomaly given 3.7 billion years of biological life. Suffice to say we’re very confident in our own abilities for a species that is the equivalent of a batter who hit a grand slam in the first innings of the first game of major league baseball we ever played. We should probably play it cool for another 600 million years before we start to consider ourselves the evolutionary equivalent of Babe Ruth.
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