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Elie
@elie
I live in Israel. AMA about the war
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welter
@fun
what do you think news outlets are getting wrong/right about the isreal-hamas war? what would you like people to know?
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Elie
@elie
Hmm. I don’t follow the foreign news enough. Some mistakes I’ve seen: 1. It’s not only Netanyahu’s war. Most of Israel supports it. The security cabinet included the opposition till recently. And even though it’s been disbanded recently that’s not because the opposition feels we need to stop fighting Hamas. 2. It’s nuts that the far left supports the extreme far right, extremist Muslim terrorists. Gays for Palestine is utterly insane when the only place a gay person can be fully free in the Middle East is Israel. 3. There are only 2 sides in this war. Most critics of Israel completely ignore the reality Israel is in and who we’re fighting. 4. Just ceasefire and stop the fighting. I wish that could happen. Stop all terrorism. Release the hostages. Let’s put an end to it. Israel gains nothing from war. But Hamas won’t stop. 5. Even when we reach a ceasefire it will be temporary. With Hamas in power the fighting will renew within a few years.
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Elie
@elie
6. “Genocide”. Israel could wipe out Gaza overnight if it wanted. It does everything in its power to stop civilian deaths. What Hamas wants to do to Israel is genocide. What Israel is doing is self defence. 7. Lastly, anyone else in this position would probably do 10x worse. Imagine 1200 Americans being murdered and 240 being held captive. And then people seeing America as the bad guy for defending itself from these murderers. It’s insane. Being the stronger side doesn’t mean you’re in the wrong. There’s a double standard against Israel. Like israel is the world’s biggest problem. When all we want is to live in peace and security without terrorism.
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Elie
@elie
Also on the genocide point. The number constantly quoted is 35000. With no mention of terrorist deaths. Around 15,000 of which are terrorists. Which is actually an extremely low ratio of civilian to combatant deaths. Especially as Hamas fight from civilian areas. Around 1.5:1 civilian to terrorist death rate. But this is almost entirely ignored. Especially by the genocide crowd. There’s also some major holes in the 35k number from Hamas. UN verified 25k. And even those verified names included a lot of false data. Now clearly a lot of Gazans have died. But the exact numbers being spouted are likely off by quite a bit.
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acai 🌚✨🚽🐇
@acai
i'm not gonna pick on every single point you make here since it'd be probably counter-productive and nothing new would ever come out of all these talking points. just one thing that i'm genuinely eager to hear opinions from you about, what's your thought on the increasingly aggressive settler expansion into the westbank?
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Elie
@elie
It should stop. And most Israelis are against it. The police/army does a bit to curb it. But could do more. The other day they were throwing Molotov cocktails at police for taking down an unauthorised settlement. Also if we’re comparing extremism on each side. The major issue is that the extremists are in charge in Gaza. Whereas in Israel they’re the minority. Happy to answer other questions. If you’re a seeker of truth you shouldn’t be afraid of conversations. And it’s inaccurate that people’s views don’t change because of conversations. Even if neither side changes their minds at the end of the conversation it can still be impactful long term. As well as for others reading.
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Elie
@elie
About the settler violence against the IDF btw: https://www.timesofisrael.com/halevi-slams-settler-attack-on-troops-demolishing-illegal-outpost-government-silent/
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Elie
@elie
This is also happening btw: https://www.timesofisrael.com/israel-recognizes-three-illegal-west-bank-outposts-approves-mass-construction/ And many Israeli think this is a bad move. And it’s happening because of the power ben Gvir and smotrich have right now. They won’t have this power come next election. I’d like to see new elections soon where we’ll see a change of leadership but will be a year or two till we get elections.
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