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Dan Romero
@dwr.eth
I often see people Farcaster isn't "sufficiently decentralized". You're free to define what "sufficiently decentralized" means to you, of course, but how we think about it is laid out in Varun's blog post. https://www.varunsrinivasan.com/2022/01/11/sufficient-decentralization-for-social-networks
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Apex777
@apex777.eth
No issues with me on the "sufficiently decentralized" term. Makes sense IMO. I do feel focusing on making Farcaster as open as possible (DM's / channels) before find tuning the feed should be a priority though. If all clients have the same features, then we have X amount of projects building clients with similar features, each will get more users because of a fair playing field. End result is, more devs / clients / users able to "crack" the feed / spam issues. I'm reluctant, or should I say unable to use any other client full time without DM's and channel features. Would prioritising a level playing field here not be the better play for the whole ecosystem?
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Dan Romero
@dwr.eth
I think it’s a reasonable request. But prioritizing the playing field and then not having anyone make a significant, long term investment in building is incorrect prioritization. There are virtually no sign ups from other clients and permissionless sign ups have been live for almost a year. Huge lift, no developer pay off. Developers overwhelmingly want us to get 100x more good users for the protocol before anything else.
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Apex777
@apex777.eth
It's kind of a chicken and egg thing though isn't it? Probably don't have sign ups because currently they lack all the features. Currently, other clients are for power users, not "normies" IMO. I feel this would change if all things are equal IMO. But I get your point about it being a big, time consuming lift for you guys.
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Dan Romero
@dwr.eth
I don’t think permissionless channel creation (same argument as permissionless sign ups) drives usage since it’s a small % of people creating channels. DCs help, but they aren’t a reason to join the network. Telegram and Twitter already at scale for crypto people. So neither are the reasons people aren’t using other apps or Farcaster. Need differentiated features or content. Likely both.
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0xFran 🫂
@0xfran
It makes no sense for a third party client to create a flow to sign up new users. They will inevitably have to set up Warpcast anyway to access the full featureset (for example for sign in with Warpcast) As a client developer, there are so many better things to work on, like for example differentiating features.
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Apex777
@apex777.eth
Agree on channels. Fair point. DC's though aren't a reason to join, but they have definitely been a BIG reason (among others) for me to stay on Farcaster (which currently means Warpcast) to talk to the people daily I've met here. This is the reason I'm tied to Warpcast permanently. We've tried migrate to TG when DC's where in a rough state a while ago, but the flow for sharing casts etc in another app is horrible. Long story short, I do feel other clients pick up usage when DC's open up.
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