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In you're in favor of "AI safety" (broad definition), what's your most compelling cast-length argument?
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@benersing
At fist automanufacturers made similar arguments against requiring seatbelts in cars. Imagine what we’d be saying about our great/grandparents if that line of thinking had prevailed.
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It took 60 years from Model T to first seat belt laws? So the technology was well understood.
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Yes, that's true: it took 60 years of people dying before the political will could be mustered. The issue was known as early as the 1900s; not too dissimilar a situation from today's AI discussions. AI is not a new technology, its potential is well understood. Regulation isn't going to kill it at this point.
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> AI is not a new technology, its potential is well understood. Regulation isn't going to kill it at this point. I disagree with all 3 of those statements? :) Every day there's new stuff and we still don't understand it. Hard to regulate something you don't understand effectively.
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Totally fair :) GPTs are new but AI as a field of research goes back to the 1950s. Where we are today has been a long anticipated by scientists. Hard, yes, but important given that our unknowns are the result of the creation itself. Not an outside factor. I don't believe this has ever before been the case.
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What's an example of a foundational technology that's been evolving for 50+ years that was completely killed off by regulatory guardrails? It could cause a winter, but it won't kill it entirely.
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Nuclear energy. Nearly limitless, carbon free, no dependency on OPEC countries. Yet we just stopped building it for no logical reason (all fearmongering).
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Fair. Digging deeper into nuclear is admittedly on my β€œto do” list. Wasn't much of the regulation an attempt to avoid another Chernobyl though?
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That’s for the US. France, for example, has continued building nuclear, up to the point of it being almost two-thirds of all power generation. And yet France doesn’t allow tinkerers to play with uranium reactors in their backyard. It is possible to be progressive on tech and respectful of the dangers involved.
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