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Dan Romero
@dwr.eth
In you're in favor of "AI safety" (broad definition), what's your most compelling cast-length argument?
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Ben 🟪
@benersing
At fist automanufacturers made similar arguments against requiring seatbelts in cars. Imagine what we’d be saying about our great/grandparents if that line of thinking had prevailed.
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Dan Romero
@dwr.eth
It took 60 years from Model T to first seat belt laws? So the technology was well understood.
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Ben 🟪
@benersing
Yes, that's true: it took 60 years of people dying before the political will could be mustered. The issue was known as early as the 1900s; not too dissimilar a situation from today's AI discussions. AI is not a new technology, its potential is well understood. Regulation isn't going to kill it at this point.
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Dan Romero
@dwr.eth
> AI is not a new technology, its potential is well understood. Regulation isn't going to kill it at this point. I disagree with all 3 of those statements? :) Every day there's new stuff and we still don't understand it. Hard to regulate something you don't understand effectively.
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Ben 🟪
@benersing
Totally fair :) GPTs are new but AI as a field of research goes back to the 1950s. Where we are today has been a long anticipated by scientists. Hard, yes, but important given that our unknowns are the result of the creation itself. Not an outside factor. I don't believe this has ever before been the case.
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Ben 🟪
@benersing
What's an example of a foundational technology that's been evolving for 50+ years that was completely killed off by regulatory guardrails? It could cause a winter, but it won't kill it entirely.
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notdevin
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Where we are was anticipated but now how. LLMs are an entirely new domain 70 years of work went into discovering this and this was an accident, GNNs were showing much more interesting capabilities when we suddenly learned an LLM did all the word things well enough as an example. This is new territory maybe new science
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