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Dan Romero
@dwr.eth
How decentralized is Farcaster today? Sign ups - You can sign up permissionlessly with the smart contract as a developer - You can sign up with Supercast, Herocast, Farquest (and maybe others...) Data / APIs - You can permissionlessly run a Hub - There are thousands of independently run Hubs - If you don't want to run a Hub, you can use an infra provider like Neynar or Airstack Protocol vs. non-protocol features - Casts, reactions, follows, profiles, verifications are all on Hubs - Not on Hubs: channel metadata, settings and follows, direct casts, location in user profiles If Warpcast labels me as spammy, is that censorship? - Depends on your definition! If you have an existing audience β€”Β say 10K followers β€”Β then even if you get labeled spammy your existing your followers will see your content in feeds on Warpcast regardless of whether you use Warpcast or not.. - If you don't care about Warpcast (approximately 80% of signer activity), then your follow graph is already decentralized in the procol.
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Dan Romero
@dwr.eth
What's the most credible argument that Farcaster is de facto centralized? - Most people sign up with Warpcast - If you don't sign up with Warpcast, you can't import your account into Warpcast to access direct casts - Direct casts are drive retention, so without access to direct casts your client will struggle relative to Warpcast - Most people use Warpcast, so if you get labeled as spammy then you will be practically invisible for discovery purposes - Warpcast team is primary developer of Hubble (the main implemention of Hubs) and has GitHub control over smart contract repos; also controls storage fee multi-sig and ability to adjust prices
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Dan Romero
@dwr.eth
What are you doing to increase decentralization? - We've committed to decentralizing the remaining bits of channels later this year (assuming / pending us figuring out how to make channels "work" from a content supply perspective) - We've been clear that direct casts are a 2025 item for decentralization - Sign in with Farcaster is open source and requires some additional work to add support for other clients (but outside of FarQuest, there is no other complete Farcaster wallet today -- Supercast willing to add functionality in the future) However, the top priority is to increase supply of interesting and entertaining content on the network, which is upstream of increasing the number of (non-spam) retained daily active users.
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iSpeakNerd πŸ§™β€β™‚οΈ
@ispeaknerd.eth
I love your thinking in public and inviting earnest criticism and discussion πŸ’œ
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accountless
@accountless.eth
πŸ₯· for addressing all sides of the argument
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ionspired
@ionspired
Thanks a lot for the reasonable explanation. But Dan the thing is the cause of "not really a decentralization" lays in the past around the fact that you had advantage launching the first client, which no one can line up fairly taking in account you guys are working a lot and fast – you are great. Still the past circumstances keep holding the others far behind. Your client your rules you said. Well this is smth you could say about DEGEN, ETH, BTC but no one does seeding the culture.
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Matthew
@matthew
re point #2, maybe I'm misreading but if I create a farcaster account on behalf of a user, they can't later import that fc account into warpcast?
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@spitfunkolips
pretty based of you to outline it like this. Thank you
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elle
@riotgoools
i thought u could import accounts to warpcast? i imported my @elle account (created with flink) and have also walked other ppl through the process Β―\_(ツ)_/Β― tho u do need someone to send u some warps to make the signer
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Ben Basche
@basche42
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FarcasterMarketing
@quillingqualia.eth
Love a good steel manning the other side of the argument!
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Kreept.degen.eth
@kreept
Okay the invisible option is definitely hilarious πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚ How spammy does one have to get?
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