Find someone else who is getting cargo to orbit at the cost / magnitude and happy to switch over my admiration for civilizational progress.

see, I'm sophisticated enough to have an opinion on Elon that's separate from my opinion on SpaceX. I also understand that he isn't moving that cargo to space himself? Thought that was spaceships?

1. Ad hominem :) 

2. And you’re not sophisticated enough to understand how SpaceX or any other frontier company makes progress, then. :)

Fwiw I think it’s fine to weight his words, tweets and opinions highly. Thats a reasonable and logically consistent point of view.

They don’t bother me because I don’t weight words, tweets and opinions highly in general. 

My view of Elon is the extraordinary progress of his companies are a result of him being involved at the micro level. I also think he’s significantly damaged his ability to affect change because of his personal beliefs and antics. But that’s his decision.

true, but a gentle one. was hoping you had a distinct opinion about each. but you're right, I don't know shit about space cargo logistics. and maybe that's why I can't reconcile musk now with musk a decade ago; I'm too focused on the man and not his spaceship business.

Scientist and engineer interested in Life.

Work on (GOF)AI, Agriculture, Biology, Energy, Robotics, Space---all topics climate-aware.

Ask people who work there on the frontier progress.

How does a frontier company make progress?

Plain question, no definitive opinion. Yet really wondering whether testosterone-based management and brute force are the only way forward. And tbh I don’t see much happening without such recipes, and believer that constraints lead forward.