shazow
@shazow.eth
Interviewing for a job is the same as dating someone new. In both cases, we're trying to figure out if the person will *become* who we need them to be for the role they're applying. With employment, we lean heavily on past experience as a proxy for this, but it's merely a proxy. Someone very adaptable with little relevant experience is a better hire than someone very experienced yet extremely rigid. Imagine we started first dates with a resume reviewing prior relationships? Is that ridiculous? Should hiring be more like dating, or should dating be more like hiring?
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Dwayne 'The Jock' Ronson
@dwayne
Do you mean it'd be a good idea just hypothetically? Cuz practically I don't see how it's possible. People lie as they want even on their resumes.. past relationships allow for way more fabrication
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shazow
@shazow.eth
Which part are you responding to? Not sure fabrication threat model is any different for employment vs relationships, it's just a difference in process. We could normalize asking for references just the same! :P
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Dwayne 'The Jock' Ronson
@dwayne
I guess I mean to say that even if it's no different, it's still a really low bar haha But also much easier to even fake references. How would the evaluator know the reference given was the actual ex? Also couldn't someone say "I've only had one serious relationship before" even when they've had many? (This wouldn't be a negative unlike the job context where more experience is better) So even if they give a real reference, it could be the ex that had the most favorable view of them. Beyond that, I think even if you could get the complete set of real references somehow, it'd be so much harder to get a good signal from someone's ex given that their opinion about the person is going to be (highly) emotional in nature, whereas a past employer can go on some semblance of objective performance metrics. I appreciate the thought experiment btw :)
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shazow
@shazow.eth
I think you are correctly identifying challenges that exist in both scenarios (dating and employment)! I also wouldn't claim that this is a good approach for either, just that it is what it is today. We can probably do better, this thread might be a taste for an alternative: https://warpcast.com/shazow.eth/0x47bcfb00
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Dwayne 'The Jock' Ronson
@dwayne
Thread you linked doesn't scroll up anymore for some reason (deleted?) so all I see is your cast But I'm kinda aware of some of the experiments she does. Fascinating person.. but I have many questions before I can believe this is viable for everyone in the future. - Does she think it's working for her? - Is it actually working for her and how do we know? Her incentives could make her exaggerate the positives - If it's working, could it because of her unique public persona + fame? Do you think it could work for average people? I'm very openminded to possibility of much better dating outcomes in this direction (i.e. sophisticated mechanisms) but I tend to think people's romantic lives are already too mechanical and the culture might have a latent desire for the pendulum to swing. We'll see :)
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shazow
@shazow.eth
(Weeeird, maybe you're blocked?) I look at it a little differently than to consider whether it's immediately viable for everyone: It is a reminder that we can be creative and try something different. We default overfit on assuming that our current equilibriums are optimal or even desirable, and experiments like this are valuable in reminding us that other approaches are even possible (even if this specific instance does not end up hugely better). There is some virtue in trying novel things, even if they don't immediately scale. As the saying goes to remind us: "You can just... do things" That said, if anecdata is anything to go by, her last breakup has had her emotionally reeling for a month+ which she has never experienced before, I take that to mean it was particularly meaningful relative to previous ones. :P
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