lore @optimism | ex: @coinbase | views are my own | what if it all worked out? 

good (in different ways): railgun, farcaster, polymarket, signal
bad (in different ways): pump.fun, Terra/Luna, FTX

The differences in what the app does stem from differences in beliefs in developers' heads about what they are here to accomplish.

I strongly disagree with Vitalik that pump is bad.

pump is a nascent form of content moving onchain — thereby letting it be valued and creating real value that can flow to creators and curators who can identify content value early.

there's absolutely things *around* pump (and other asset classes + venues) that are bad (e.g. people manipulating markets), but I think it's actively harmful to denigrate pump itself.

onchain creativity is good — and pump has been pioneering. thank you to @alon and team for their leadership 🫡

@base builder #001; onchain cities w/ OAK & city3

no, the livestreaming video platform they built where ppl literally shot themselves on camera is not a thing "around" pump. Having video livestreams without having real-time policing and moderation is just actively stupid given the history of video livestreaming on Twitch, Facebook, etc. I'm not saying go hire a "trust & safety team": Periscope did this right by having impromptu juries vote on whether rules were broken, which allowed them to scale while keeping the platform relatively clean.