David Furlong on Warpcast

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Long time coming, but going to properly shut down discove.xyz Jan 1st; any remaining users, export your data/feed algo code that you want to keep. It costs too much to run & maintain, given nr of custom feeds it caches and given its hosted on vercel. Might relaunch at some point/could open source if enough interest

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timdaub pfp

what are the monthly costs?

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David Furlong pfp

/memes turns out a million slow requests (to cache feeds) a day is a lot

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timdaub pfp

kiwi still 25€ a month

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David Furlong pfp

yeah very different infra need lol

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timdaub pfp

I also have global edge caching but for free with Cloudflare. I have everything a next js has

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David Furlong pfp

lol thats a different kind of caching

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discove: - custom feeds can take up to 2 mins to run on SQL, can't let first user going to that feed in that time period get an uncached version, or they wait for 2 mins for the page to load. That's what just cloudflare edge cache would do - cache is stale (expires) in less than 5 mins (as chrono/algo social feeds are)

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Dan Romero pfp

almost looks like you're subsidizing inefficient sql written by no-coders to the tune of 2k a month. that's 👀 about how easy it is to write expensive queries

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timdaub pfp

I think this is still too charitable because operation costs are now a factor to discontinue an otherwise well-working product that has potential

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its also unmaintained lol - still relies on warpcast apis

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doesn’t support eth usernames etc. very broken and I’d rather put my energy now into mod and supporting other apps on Farcaster

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timdaub pfp

that‘s fair but keeping in running is like a out of the money option. Maybe it works like shit but not selling the options is not yet realizing a loss. And markets change all the time

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I actually think u should spend the time to build it back to keep it sustainable and running. I bet you will win later in some way bc of that. But I would try to make very high bang buck refactors to make it sustainable at the expense of removing most features maybe

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eg I keep rugpullindex.com without core functionality online just bc it benefits me credibility wise

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@df if u disable frequent caching would you save 1-2k a month and the site would technically still work?

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would be slow as hell and still buggy bc unmaintained. also warpcast apis die soon and I tried to migrate off but new database schema is even harder to index well and still a lot of work to get working

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- slow is better than non existent - buggy too - Warpcast APIs die when they die. That isn‘t in your control and you are speculating. You can still shut down at zero cost when they shut them down. - don‘t migrate don‘t fix, just control short term operating costs

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tim im gonna trust my product judgement here

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timdaub pfp

sure you do you

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@dwr.eth @v if david kept discove on the backburner running how would that affect the life time of the Warpcast API? You would consider him before shutting down right? Why shut something down out of decentralization maxi ideology right? Pragmatic crypto ftw

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David Furlong pfp

no im shutting down regardless tim, I appreciate the enthusiasm, but I support warpcast shutting down their api and focusing on their app

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timdaub pfp

that sounds like false favor. @dwr.eth‘s key KPI are number of people building on their tech. Why would Dan do smth to reduce that number?

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David Furlong pfp

nonsense thats not the key KPI, qDAUs is

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theres more than 50 fc apps losing one wont hurt, especially if its one with lots of bugs due to no active development

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timdaub pfp

what u have a16z funding and you are one of their best bets to succeed and interest aligned. I‘d take you any day over some random ass dev

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