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Vitalik Buterin

One meta belief I have, is that I think "on the face pursuing idealistic objective A, but actually being tilted toward selfish objective B" is better than "openly pursuing objective B". Many seem to believe the opposite, typically saying something like "at least the latter is honest". I feel like what this misses, is that maintaining the face of pursuing idealistic objective A, and using A to coordinate a large coalition, is a pretty big speed bump against attempts to pursue B too brazenly. When "the mask comes off", things actually become much worse, and strategies that pursue B at high costs to other values (including A, and also often general human decency) become unlocked. Are there any good arguments against this intuition I have? (Whether generalized, or about specific situations)

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Sir, I've seen both sides in the military For example in basic training the drill Sergeant is the meanest person ever But behind the scenes (later in my career I worked with them) they are the nicest people. You see the switch flip as soon as they walk outside to the troops. I've ALSO seen the opposite in politics etc as I worked at the presidential level (yes I have pics to prove it) I'd be open to discussing verbally as too much could get misinterpreted via text. DM anytime sir.

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Is that the same thing? I feel like that's the "nice vs good" distinction, and there's definitely an interesting debate there, but it's a different debate

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It seems like you’re trying to draw on the idea that to achieve a certain outcome, especially if that outcome is difficult at face value, one must put on a mask to coordinate for a greater good. And not until the objective is complete do you take the mask off to reveal the hidden desire. Drill sergeants want to be, and are, nice but know that doesn’t help accomplish the mission. Is this also what you meant?

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@degenveteran.eth

In a generalist way. There's so many angles depending on the response to the original message. I usually throw a "large dart" to get closer to what the original question root meaning or motivation behind the question. This enables a real conversation for growth in both parties. I'm glad you followed up! I'm always up for fun conversations. 100 $degen

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My q was towards vitalik. I had assumed that this is definitely what you meant in relation to V. Maybe I was wrong then.

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