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@jessepollak
I strongly disagree with Vitalik that pump is bad. pump is a nascent form of content moving onchain — thereby letting it be valued and creating real value that can flow to creators and curators who can identify content value early. there's absolutely things *around* pump (and other asset classes + venues) that are bad (e.g. people manipulating markets), but I think it's actively harmful to denigrate pump itself. onchain creativity is good — and pump has been pioneering. thank you to @alon and team for their leadership 🫡
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@jacopo.eth
disagree — pump is short-term euphoria with long-term, ecosystem-wide side effects. we should absolutely keep using tokens in innovative ways to reward onchain creators and curators. but we shouldn’t socially align ethereum with speculation — it undermines the broader vision and turns away the people we need most. https://warpcast.com/jacopo.eth/0xf6f6791e
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@jessepollak
we can have both! it's a big, wide open sea.
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@limone.eth
we can definitely have both — speculation and utility — and no one can stop that. but let’s be honest: speculation often does more harm than good. people lose money, get burned, and what sticks is the idea that crypto is just a giant casino. as @jacopo.eth mentioned at /appcon, we spoke with a lot of people — and most of them instinctively backed away the moment they heard “bitcoin,” “ethereum,” or “crypto.” of course, i’m not saying there’s no innovation happening. pump.fun and clanker introduced new, creative ways to launch tokens — and @zora took that further, blending speculation with content and culture in interesting ways. they feel like sparks — early steps into a new design space for builders. but at the same time, they also feed a narrative that, to me, is still net negative for the broader audience.
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@deca12x
Objectively pumpfun is nothing but bad. Of course it has great UX, it wouldn't be viral otherwise. But look at what it does: a zero sum game based entirely on insider trading and market manipulation, a tool for mass extraction of capital from retail to sophisticated predators, enriches only those with no morals
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