I'm starting to worry that based preconfirmations lead to too much centralization pressure, creating a small oligopoly of shared sequencers and provers. Is this really better than centralized sequencers (which can also give preconfirmations)? At least the centralization here is per rollup and not global.

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Do you still have the same opinion @dankrad if there are no preconfirmations?

Preconfirmations+composability are what worries me

Yes. I guess if you want preconfirmations, then I feel it may be better to keep the centralized sequencer.

Right, so based rollups by themselves don't create this problem - it's creating economic games around preconfirmations that do?