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ETH's staking econ is under scrutiny. A post by @caspar highlights an issue: if left unchanged current incentives could lead to a majority of ETH being staked, posing risks to the network's decentralization. Lets break it down

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ETH's staking econ is under scrutiny. A post by @caspar highlights an issue: if left unchanged current incentives could lead to a majority of ETH being staked, posing risks to the network's decentralization. Lets break it down

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https://ethereum-magicians.org/t/electra-issuance-curve-adjustment-proposal/18825

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2/ A major concern is the potential dominance of LSTs. As staking participation increases, LSTs are likely to control a majority of staked ETH

3/ The LST market could be winner-take-all leading to:
- The LST could gain greater utility as money than ETH itself
- The dominant provider would have immense power over Ethereum governance and transaction inclusion
- Systemic risk to the LST poses a wider threat to the entire network

4/ The primary function of staking is to secure the network. It can be argued that we're already overpaying and diluting ETH too much, as we have $105BN in economic security. The question is whether we need 4x more staked ETH to secure the network. This post says no

5/ Caspar's proposed solution involves adjusting Ethereum's issuance curve to cap ETH dilution from staking at 0.4% (currently 1.5%). This would reduce validator yields across the curve

6/ However, Caspar thinks that under this adjusted model, the real yield for validators would actually be higher due to significantly reduced dilution, especially in a scenario with extremely high ETH staking percentages

7/ The simplified equation:
Lower yield + less ETH issued (25% staked) = greater real yield than higher yield + excessive ETH issued (>80% staked)

8/ The Electra upgrade provides the earliest window to integrate these changes (9-12 months). Inaction could lead to further centralization and unnecessary ETH dilution because the upgrade after Electra won't be until 18-24 months from now

9/ The likely end goal is to establish staking economics that target a balanced targeted percentage of staked ETH. Further research is needed to determine the ideal percentage and fine tune the mechanisms to achieve it

1/ Currently, 26% of all ETH is staked. While staking is essential for network security, Caspar suggests the current incentive structure will drive this percentage to unsustainable levels with significant implications for Ethereum's core principles

ETH as the money/SoV of the onchain economy is the most important driver of value for ETH

Every other value driver is additive but no where near as important as ETH being money

Once you understand this, you stop seeing the matrix code and only see the woman in the red dress

Probably not. Scaling decentralized compute (and we're scaling .o0) is extremely hard, emerging problems pop up and the community needs to react to them. Doesn't change the fact ETH is money within the onchain economy. Different goals than the holy orange coin

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Probably not. Scaling decentralized compute (and we're scaling .o0) is extremely hard, emerging problems pop up and the community needs to react to them. Doesn't change the fact ETH is money within the onchain economy. Different goals than the holy orange coin

https://warpcast.com/sassal.eth/0xd966ee89

surely the tinkering with the monetary policy will slow down after this round of tinkering

Great thread. I don’t see much from the other point of view ‘oh you’ve built this great thing, but now it’s too successful so we are going to move the goal posts’. I think it should be very carefully thought through on the knock on effects that could stop people building in the future.