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Base & Farcaster both need more counter cultures Crypto needs *intetnal* counter culture We have essentially three major cultures as I see it: startup & milady & zealot Milady = shitcoin traders on sol, rug pullers in discord trenches making memes that Elon retweets Startup = tech people, VCs, people with real jobs at companies Zealots = nerds & ideologues who were here early for strong, intellectual and political reasons. Mission driven, highly technical. There is plenty of overlap, and lots of retail & alt-chain grifters with no real identity in between. We need space for people who don’t really identify with the stuff we have done, but who are down to use crypto for their own reasons. We need those people & we need big culture wars with them. Would be good to see some fresh juice in the system vibes wise

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just to push back on this because i think its an important discussion for many reasons; firstly i agree wholeheartedly, counter culture is good. it is sign of progress 1. milady is not the solana memecoin culture. from my understanding of what i pieced together and from what ive heard in gcs, retardio was created by milady holders and just like many derivs that are made by holders it was given support as remillia community but not assets. they've since grown bigger, hence why people assume that is milady 2. VC culture is real bad, totally agree with that. im not sure there's a solution other than integrating and reintegrating users into cypherpunk values. back to basics of dont trust, verify 3. zealots are gone, or at least nowhere near as vocal. unless we're counting BTC maxis, but nobody counts them. most ETH/SOL talk comes from ppl who trade both. I know 1 extremely hard-core ETH head. i struggle to call sol maxis a maxi bc they're that way for profit reasons, not because they believe in the tech

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I'm speaking so generally here I guess my main point isn't really good vs. bad more just describing what I see as the main groups. you're right, milady != solana memecoin culture, but solana memecoin culture is downstream of milady og idealists, cypherpunk (zealots) vcs or more corporate, tech-adjacent people (startup) crypto+internet native, hyperspeculative, creative, blackpilled (milady) at one point the zealots were a counter culture, same with the startup ppl, and same with milady. now none are really. whats next? counter cultures are good at disrupting comfy expectations & ideas, challenges stagnant (dominant) players & opening space for other new things - this cycle we didn't really get one. my hope is the next counter culture happens here first :)

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Well the genius move from Remilia was creating an opposite counter culture just after Milady That way you create clash on the community & you effectively split community values, you can be a shadowy leftist trans milady dev or a trump supporter remilio & its totally okay for everyone Remilia can be anyone & thats probably whats lacking on FC

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