Degen

1/9 GM Degens, after careful consideration—because it affects you most of all—we’ve decided to share with the community the difficulties we’ve been facing in migrating DEGEN L3 to a new service provider, which has delayed some exciting features. https://paragraph.xyz/@degentokenbase/a-frustrated-migration

I don’t know anything about Conduit, and I haven’t heard their side of the story, but a post like this is enough to get me to steer clear of them

cma.xyz. Founder /paragraph, ceo /mirror, previously at Google & Coinbase 

yeah this is a nightmare for Conduit (without them sharing their side)

GM Degens,

After careful consideration—since it affects the community most—we’re sharing our difficulties in migrating DEGEN L3 away from @conduitxyz services

They've held our rollup keys hostage for months, and we may need to relaunch a new chain

https://t.co/q16ac9lvDT

The DEGEN community is important to us, which is why we’ve been providing DEGEN service for free since May, without a formal relationship (which in this case means no customer contract signed). This is unusual in business, but at Conduit we are flexible and want to support the…

Conduit

i /yoink & build in the /arweave ecosystem with PDS.inc

https://x.com/conduitxyz/status/1854597395948224999?s=46&t=bqnLiVNFI3iMwsoNyUVOtA

its not a great look

Think both were casualties of a crazy growth period earlier this year 

Wires got crossed, conduit fucked up and took zero ownership, Jacek wasn't massively interested in the L3 at first - it was community led but Jacek was left to deal with the mess it created 

Conduits mess up massively hurt Degens optics - it was up only till it was offline for 3 days and burnt everyone building/participating (me and my co included) 

Since then I think that relationship has been taunt it seems, I have seen a lot of interesting developments from conduit since that have made me think better of their offerings 

But it doesn't seem like they scaled their ability to manage comms as much as they scaled their AWS instances that manage all these blockchains which they honestly don't seem to have figured out a security model where they are not the bottleneck and single point of failure for a network of networks where they claim no reasonability for the issues they unilaterally create

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I also like this take from @matthewfox  

https://warpcast.com/matthewfox/0x6e7b2be9

yup agreed, lots of lessons from this.

degen & conduit are more battle hardened from a technology & comms perspective. onwards and upwards 🎩

I’m a bit under informed but seem to me more empathetic to consult that a few folks commenting. 

It’s a very bad look for BOTH. Hasty deploy to L3 was a head scratcher when it happened but we should move on.