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I. Christwinăâ¸âżâă
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@bigtone.eth @jonniesparkles @jonnyringo.eth WTF!!!!!!! Is that a broken link on arweave? ...the permaweb is ded too? đ˛ https://ar-io.net/yUr3GpU0a4AX2WvgecIsIRHYg9xQ2zwCXW1titLV804
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https://x.com/hlolli/status/1866062140898947334?s=46&t=R0PF9GGi1TfWVkhmDNBySw
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This is indeed a problem đ Both claims here are entirely subjective, and it extremely difficult to say whether the uploader or the Arweave is responsible for the unavailable data. (reminds me of challenges Ethereum had with Plasma, and data unavailability faults) In my opinion, issues like the shouldn't exit in the first place. But then even samecwilliams.twitter did mention there is some probabilistic chance of data loss and that previously lost data can be reseeded. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-d3AJDYIFE&t=1292s
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these situations make the network battle tested & more resilient. IMO burden of proof is on the anon accuser - if you can't prove that the data was properly uploaded, it's a false claim.
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I guess one think I could try is check how many valid blocks on the blockweave have recalled previously recalled chunks from this block (jnty649MNcqOiyhQfGBbSWYN60TZf-5ou5doJZqFVnI6Nn2kIguvUz4V3erStGAF) If I understand correctly how the blockweave is mined, it shouldn't be possible to produce a valid block if the block miner is unable to recall the required chunks in said block (https://2-6-spec.arweave.dev/) if at all any such recall has happened for chunks of this data, then without doubt, the network must have dropped them afterwards. However the absence of said recall doesn't wouldn't necessarily imply the uploader never provided the chunks because the recall challenges are random and probabilist. The probability that out of all the data on arweave (218.64 TiB), miners have been challenged to recall any of the 2 chunks derived from that PNG, in the time since it was uploaded (about 20 months), seems really unlikely đ¤. But that the best proof I can think of rn
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