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everyone i’ve seen on FC sounds positive or wants to remain neutral about $TRUMP. i’ve only seen @cyberyuyu speak out about how gross it is on X/Twitter. i know i’m not the only one here totally disgusted and turned off by the crypto world rn lol
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you're certainly not the only one. I bought and sold a trivial amount to understand what was going on since I'm not much of a trader. I just can't bring myself to put more into it than that. Not because I don't think I can make money, but because it feels wrong. I do hope that dwr et al are correct that this will signal more regulatory clarity over time b/c I think poor regulation makes things worse for good players and neutral/good for bad players
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the question i’m asking myself right now is how comfortable am i with crypto’s increasing associations to fascist alliances. if i had to choose between regulation of crypto or fascism i’d choose regulation any day loool. we’re not at that point yet so i’ll be observing, but i’m feeling bad about this
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what do you mean as "crypto" in this case? Just made it up right now, but thinking there's 1) the builder-leaders (Vitalik etc), 2) the rest of the builders, 3) the technology itself, and 4) users who are not builders (including marketing). With this categorization, I feel like 1) leadership alliance with Trump etc depends on the person, 2) builders are likewise varied, and 3) the tech is permissionless and indifferent. The final category tend to "follow the money" wherever it goes (and is a lot of the noise) or to react against those following the money. This is most of what I see on Twitter. FC, on the other hand, feels much more builder-heavy, which is probably why you see mostly neutral or positive takes. It's not so much that there are explicit alliances as the hope that crypto being important to the new administration will pave the way for new regulation, which makes it easier to build more than just a casino.
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(bear with me as I could be wrong about all of this and am making it up as I type) I think one of the biggest frustrations as a philosophically-oriented consumer of crypto is that regulation seems to have relegated it mostly to crypto only being useful for crypto stuff. I remember being really disappointed that I can't use USDC, like, anywhere. I would _love_ for crypto to be able to break out of just being able to build for crypto use cases and more into the "real world".
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yes, i feel this frustration. i think even the use cases for decentralised social media existing outside of the crypto sphere is becoming paramount, esp with what we've seen with TikTok and Meta. i absolutely want to get off Meta, but i can't because all my friends are there, and even though i *do* have a 'choice', I feel trapped and like i'm making concessions - therefore not truly free in my choice. the problem is that decentralised social media is very crypto-oriented rn, and now with all this Crypto Ball fanfare, who outside of crypto (except the few demographics who are aligned with Trump) will want to join?
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I feel like the builders need runway and killer product and, to an extent, the normalization of crypto tech. Right now it's way too cumbersome for the mass non-financially oriented consumer to be interested. The less visible the crypto (and decentralized) label is, the more likely a decentralized platform's success becomes. I can't think of any examples off the top of my head (could be some, though) where philosophically-oriented technology has won out purely on its philosophical merits. As far as being complicit goes, that's always a tough one for me. For somewhat unwilling leaders like Vitalik (and he's as much the face of crypto as anyone for me), I don't see steps he can take that fit his character and aren't simply someone else's agenda. Personally, I'd be way more worried if VItalik suddenly had a strong political philosophical shift to counter the Trump one. While it may not be the case for other things, I think his neutrality _is_ a form of resistance.
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