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balajis
@balajis.eth
Yes. Virtue is good because it’s decentralized self-control. The more virtuous the society, the more self-disciplined, the less need for centralized law enforcement, rules, and punishment in general. Virtue is why we can have nice things.
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Ben
@benersing
Is there a distinction between virtue and trustworthiness?
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Vitalik Buterin
@vitalik.eth
Yes, eg. someone can be fully honest and trustworthy but still be lazy and eat unhealthy food every day.
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Ben
@benersing
Hypothetically speaking, if you were to over-index on one (virtue or trustworthiness) in screening citizens for a network state, which would you choose?
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Vitalik Buterin
@vitalik.eth
I'd take trustworthiness; hard to make any kind of progress on other dimensions (incl virtue) if people constantly have to worry if their fellow citizens are about to betray them.
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Ben
@benersing
1. Can trustworthiness be taught? 2. Or is it a matter of discerning and filtering the trustworthy from untrustworthy? I want to say 1, but my gut says 2. Reality is likely somewhere in the middle.
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Vitalik Buterin
@vitalik.eth
I expect that an environment where trustworthiness is highly valued and filtered for will automatically lead to both.
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Ben
@benersing
Self-reinforcing mores, I agree. The filtering element is the challenge.
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~sarlev-sarsen
@sarlev.eth
urbit seemingly bootstrapped this in the digital sphere. filtering initially by technical competency, then by tolerance of dissident politics of the founder, and then by system architecture. it’s unclear if this could be deliberately replicated in other distributed systems, but it offers a high trust digital society.
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