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People who are interested in living in a long-term network state node (so, permanent location, not popup), what are some properties that you would like such a node to have?
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What’s the real difference between a nation-state and a network state with a permanent location? Like, wouldn’t it just end up being an “innovative” nation-state that uses last tech advancements and trying out new market, governance, taxation and redistribution mechanisms? I get that network states might need less enforcement in some cases, but how would they enforce still important laws? Would it still come down to physical enforcement? And if so, does that mean they’d have a monopoly on violence, like a traditional state? Even if the law enforcement becomes private, we’re not changing much the primitives, and that would be necessary at least for stuff like boundaries and sovereignty, no? And what happens when people have kids, do the kids automatically become citizens of the network state? What if they are poor? Will some rights be above everything? Honestly I’m struggling not to think that a permanent location network state wouldn’t eventually just morph into a nation-state.
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Since it’s only a node it won’t be a typical nation state Nation states have some clear properties like clear identity, sovereignty, common territory Nodes may not need to identify as a separate nation
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Yeah, I get that. My point is that over time, even a network state with might end up looking and acting like a nation-state. Specially if its successful, people like the UX and is convenient. Once you bring in things like governance, physical boundaries, and enforcement mechanisms, doesn’t it start walking and quacking like the same duck? Maybe a cool duck, tho.
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