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Arjan | That Poetry Guy
@arjantupan
A statue of Hugo Grotius. The man who laid the foundations for international law. However much tranpled by (wannabe) dictators of our time, this is still the code we need to build peace and prosperity on. But how can we best get back to these basics?
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Dirk Siebels
@disic
Problem is that many countries don’t want to be part of the ’rules-based order’ unless they got much more of a say in making the actual rules.
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Arjan | That Poetry Guy
@arjantupan
Not sure I understand whst you mean by that. Sny rules based order in place right now is built on treaties that countries have negotiated and agreed on. Do, they have their say.
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Dirk Siebels
@disic
Well, many of those treaties go back to colonialism. Others are held up when it suits Western countries but ignored when it doesn’t. Sanctions are a perfect example: US gov’t (and other Western countries) implement them based on their foreign policy but rely on other countries to enforce them, yet these countries have other political priorities and don’t want those sanctions to begin with. And how do you argue for sanctions against Russia while Israel can do what they want? Bit hard to ignore the hypocrisy.
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Arjan | That Poetry Guy
@arjantupan
The hipocracy is real, and I do not agree with it. But that doesn't mean the underlying principles of international law are not a good basis to build on. I realise in the current geopolitical power balance, former colonies are not having enough say (apart from the US), but again, that does not mean the underlying principles are bad. I would love to see a stronger international judiciary, based in the universal declaration of human rights, with a strong ICJ and ICC.
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Dirk Siebels
@disic
I wouldn’t disagree with the int’l courts. In reality though, that will be at least a couple years down the road. It’s not even working perfectly in the EU and that’s among relatively similar countries in an institutionalised setting.
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Arjan | That Poetry Guy
@arjantupan
I am a bit of a dreamer, maybe. The biggest challenge of the EU now is that many EU citizens do not fully understand it and most politicians and press on the national level are too lazy to explain it well. For what is in the treaties, the EU judicial system works pretty good. There's a lot of noise about all the things that are not in the treaties, and at the national level, politicians are blaming the EU for national failures. So, yeah, that needs improvement.
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Dirk Siebels
@disic
100% agreed. Problem is that blaming Brussels is an easy way out in many cases because it’s convenient for everyone in the short term and nobody cares much about the longer term.
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