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nickbytes
@nickbytes.eth
Javascript still needs its Rails/Django equivalent. Next.js has empowered a bunch of frontend devs to build fullstack applications, but there’s a ton of footguns and the flexibility still has people floundering in problems long-solved by other frameworks.
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MOLO
@molo
what are the problems you’re thinking of?
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nickbytes
@nickbytes.eth
This sums up pretty well https://warpcast.com/leewardbound/0xf777db
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MOLO
@molo
How do you write frontend with django? Does it have its own templating or can you just hook it into react?
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Leeward Bound
@leewardbound
Personally I hate the templating and html and form handling in Django - I use Django as a strict backend layer for API development (formerly Django-rest-framework, now graphene for gql), and I build frontends in Nextjs + react, which are very adept at frontend concerns (SEO, hydration, routing, query loading, etc)
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Leeward Bound
@leewardbound
Absolutely cannot vouch strongly enough for the django+gql+react pattern, it feels like cheat codes - all the best backend tools coupled with a strongly typed API, means you get a best-in-class frontend experience with 95% of the full end-to-end typing experience that the "Full-stack JS" crowd boasts about
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alex
@alexgrover.eth
In my experience the python graphql tooling is really not up to par. I find the full-stack typescript experience to be miles ahead, but that’s just me
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Leeward Bound
@leewardbound
Graphene has been far more usable and stable for me than any of the Nexus+prisma stuff, which has been thru several major versions in just the last 2yrs
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alex
@alexgrover.eth
Yeah JS-land definitely has its warts as well. I just found that there was a lot less active development on the python tooling so there are still major features missing. For example there’s basically no good story around observability and performance, and even things like dataloaders aren’t as full featured
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