julien
@julien51.eth
Telegram: we keep control for ourselves and refuse to cooperate. Tornado: we relinquish all control so we cannot cooperate. If you think this is the same thing, you STILL do not understand the point of crypto.
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Adam Blumberg
@adamblumberg
I understand the detainment from the weekend. The most frustrating part of both is the overwhelming need of governments to listen in on our conversations.
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julien
@julien51.eth
Maybe governments just want to actually enforce laws that were voted on? As a citizen, I want people who commit crimes to be convicted and if a company has the power to help (because they explicitly *took that power*), then I want them to help. The story is completely different if the company purposefully refused to take control.
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Adam Blumberg
@adamblumberg
Completely agree. A law is a law, and he knew the law, knew he had a warrant, and landed in France. I also agree that if the platform were decentralized, it changes the conversation.
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julien
@julien51.eth
That said, I can also imagine that some of the conspiracy theories around Russia, the fact that the TG servers could have been tapped... etc are all possible. I am just very worries when so-called crypto advocates are all worries about free-speech here. I don't think that's the issue, at all.
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