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Another prime example. The lack of awareness is so staggering that this person actually believes russian people of all professions invading a foreign country and bombing civilians somehow equates to Ukrainians of all professions being forced to leave their lives behind to defend their country from those fucking invaders. The audacity is unreal. It also shows that even on Farcaster, you’ll find war and genocide supporters justifying these actions and trying to garner empathy for “their side.” Reminds me of Israelis claiming the IOF are victims while they bomb kids to pieces.
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lol yeah, when I saw that comment, I thought, wait, is this person actually proud that their army of invaders consists of ‘creators’? Also, interesting choice of words: “they are all present.” Present where, exactly?! On the territory of a neighboring country where they kill people? Anyway, an easy block from me. 1111 $degen
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did y’all engage that person? it doesn’t look like it was written w malice to me. it looks genuine - as in the person believes that and is sincerely talking about it — even if not true to you or anyone else. they may be trying to say each side that is fighting is human, and ultimately putin put his people there, the soldiers didn’t. russia has professional soldiers, and criminal conscripts (i dunno if ukraine does), and one could say those soldiers in some way are creators etc. i like to try to see each sides viewpoint and understand what is ‘true’ to them. i agree w you here tho
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It’s an easy way to avoid accountability when people say, “Putin put them there.” However, Russians have choices: leave the country (like many did to avoid conscription), face prison for refusing to join the army or actually participate in war and kill others. The choice of the most is clear. But many Russians prefer this reasoning because it’s convenient to blame Putin for every decision they make. This narrative is deeply flawed as it removes personal accountability. Putin isn’t personally bombing civilians, destroying villages, or raping women in occupation. It’s russians carrying out these actions. So when someone tries to get empathy for “the other side” by attempting to humanize them, it only looks to me that they approve of these atrocities.
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i see merits in both sides of the arguments. your points are logical to me. true soldiers defending their country tho, are trained to do just that. like the usa troops in iraq, and afghanistan, i bet a lot of them didn’t want to be there. not reenlisting didn’t prevent soldiers from having to deploy in the first place. so, i don’t fault soldiers for being soldiers. at all. i feel for those men and women. i think tho, it’s easy to say, look at the behavior of russian soldiers raping people and such — and that’s what settles the argument for me. so, imo it’s putin fault, the soldiers personal situation, and then the russian army in its entirety as pieces of shit. ;) see i do agree w you.
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also very cool we can debate here. we could not on twitter like this.
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Yes, I think the choices that professional soldiers and civilians facing conscription make are definitely different. What I was describing refers to civilians’ decisions when conscription is enforced. As for professional soldiers, specifically in the context of Russia, there were options at the beginning of the war for them to surrender in exchange for amnesty and crypto payments, provided they chose not to commit war crimes. It’s interesting that quite a few took this offer, however, many did not, so it was still a choice. Even if you are a professional soldier, at some point, you may realize you’re committing outright war crimes. At that point, it’s up to you to decide what’s more important: your sense of duty to some dictatorship or to humanity. https://finance.yahoo.com/news/russian-soldiers-offered-bitcoin-exchange-054425507.html
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