i recently listened to the rollup podcast w/ @lucanetz & michael nelson. some of my takeaways - 

-I now see why people were so bullish pudgy when Luca took over, dude can actually think and understands what he's trying to accomplish @ pudgy and the empire being built

The blockchain leading the next generation of consumer crypto.

BD @ Spectra & Harvest | Former Socket, Balancer

-michael is a fucking legend, I didn't know him before but I appreciate his cypherpunk roots

-@abstractchain & pudgy are going at adoption from a completely different perspective than we have in DeFi, I forgot the whole consumer crypto narrative the ICO era brought on and I appreciate the angle they're taking

one thing I'd love to see on abstract is more compelling apps that keep me coming back, roach racing is fun, gigaverse has potential, gacha is a great way for me to lose money but I'm not sure any have that long term sticking power for me yet

however I now have a good amount of faith in the founders. I saw @ayyyeandy tweet this recently, that sometimes you can just see someone and have a gut reaction that they're the real deal. that's how I felt seeing this pod. time will tell but I bought some pengu

-portal is an absolute banger of an onboarding tool, I right after listening to the pod onboarded myself & my wife. in less than an 5 mins I already had my wallet funded and was promptly racing roaches. I want to find a way to build something like this for Harvest & Spectra

-all in all it was a very eye opening pod. I really vibed with a few of the things luca & michael were talking about, as far as issues they currently see in how chains / apps are being built now (the image of growth @ any cost vs actually building something real)

-I'm not confused in thinking defi growth = consumer app growth but there are definitely things i plan to take into how I think about growth & strategy at spectra and harvest. I highly recommend you give it a listen.