i recently listened to the rollup podcast w/ @lucanetz & michael nelson. some of my takeaways - 

-I now see why people were so bullish pudgy when Luca took over, dude can actually think and understands what he's trying to accomplish @ pudgy and the empire being built

The blockchain leading the next generation of consumer crypto.

BD @ Spectra & Harvest | Former Socket, Balancer

-portal is an absolute banger of an onboarding tool, I right after listening to the pod onboarded myself & my wife. in less than an 5 mins I already had my wallet funded and was promptly racing roaches. I want to find a way to build something like this for Harvest & Spectra

-all in all it was a very eye opening pod. I really vibed with a few of the things luca & michael were talking about, as far as issues they currently see in how chains / apps are being built now (the image of growth @ any cost vs actually building something real)

-I'm not confused in thinking defi growth = consumer app growth but there are definitely things i plan to take into how I think about growth & strategy at spectra and harvest. I highly recommend you give it a listen.

one thing I'd love to see on abstract is more compelling apps that keep me coming back, roach racing is fun, gigaverse has potential, gacha is a great way for me to lose money but I'm not sure any have that long term sticking power for me yet

however I now have a good amount of faith in the founders. I saw @ayyyeandy tweet this recently, that sometimes you can just see someone and have a gut reaction that they're the real deal. that's how I felt seeing this pod. time will tell but I bought some pengu

-michael is a fucking legend, I didn't know him before but I appreciate his cypherpunk roots

-@abstractchain & pudgy are going at adoption from a completely different perspective than we have in DeFi, I forgot the whole consumer crypto narrative the ICO era brought on and I appreciate the angle they're taking