Vitalik Buterin
@vitalik.eth
I am noticing that the most successful new ideologies of the past decade are very object-level (prescriptions on specific issues) and quite little meta-level (social processes for making decisions on object-level issues). Examples: * Abstract libertarianism feels much weaker than 10 years ago. But issue-specific versions of it are quite successful: YIMBY (housing), the crypto space * e/acc (it's about all technology in theory, but ends up being about AI in practice) * The largest cluster in effective altruism morphed from being meta-level ("think harder to making sure your donations are going where they can do the most good!") to object level (AI safety, with a little bit of animal welfare and global public health) * Longevity movement Maybe network states and Glen and Audrey's Plurality movement are two exceptions - but in general the above feels like a strong pattern. Any ideas why this meta level -> object level shift seems to be taking place?
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Aaron Blaisdell / ittybit 533
@aaronblaisdell
My best guess is that the greater ease of global access to networks via the internet, especially web2, led to greater tribalism and echo chamber behavior. The result being a narrowing of opinions to fewer but major issues.
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Vitalik Buterin
@vitalik.eth
Now that in the 2020s, we're moving away from total twitter-as-global-watercooler dominance toward something more fragmented/pluralist, what will that imply about the ideologies that come about this decade?
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Jon Pitchfork
@jonp
This makes a lot of sense to me. At a macro level, there have been globalist agendas, but at a personal level, which has a bigger collective effect, (at least here in the UK) it feels like people are integrating less with each other in the Real World. Perhaps this is because they are able to communicate/group more easily with like minded people in the digital world. But it also feels like a function of population density too. If true, for whatever reason, I don't see this narrowing of people circles as healthy.
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Bigfg
@bigfg
This has been going on even before the advent of the Internet. During the 60'ies old institutions like church (catholic, protestant etc.) and social/political vision (socialism etc.) were no longer leading in how people lived and organized their life. It used to be that church and/or union provided everything from school, sportsclub etc. Now it's all indivudualism. Media/Internet indeed amplified this and gave anyone (disregarding knowledge and experience and repuation) a "voice". And with the advent of this, focus shifted to shorter term stuff and "issues". I am not propagating a return to the traditional societal "stovepipes" of yore though.
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