does anyone know of large, authenticated web apps built with nextjs? evaluating for web app

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don't use nextjs for the love of god 👀

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- as industry we finally realized that users have supercomputers in their hands and we don't want to compute everything centrally with ssr
- best case initial load of bundle is ~300kb (bit.ly/3woeAXH) as opposed to ~13kb with preact (bit.ly/3kDNkC5)
- we came up with cdn's, use them to serve bundles

etc etc etc

because changing your mindset towards user-oriented benefits is not trendy

making yourself look like you do is trendy

this is similar to why people use redux instead of valtio and sql instead of nosql

when people decide on their code stack they rarely switch

but when you switch you're able to pick best

but the most f'ing thing i hate is that with web3 you don't need backend at all

yet for some reason people still keep building ssr apps with centralized backend

just serve your spa from ipfs — there is no need for backend if you connect directly to blockchain (this is how it should be)

but no matter how many logical arguments i'll present developers will still want to make:

- bulky slow apps
- backend and frontend tightly coupled
- unscalable for large number of users (remember the centralized computing with ssr?)
- large undocumented unmaintainable codebases that make you write more code

I’m honestly fairly horrified about the move towards SSR, and Google is one of the biggest proponents primarily because it makes their crawler bots easier and monopolies will just push the SSR costs onto providers.

The user benefits seem largely minor in my view and better solved in other ways as you outlined.