fc-updates

Channels changes will go live today around 1pm Pacific.

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most channels are abandoned, owners will not care about implementing any (auto) invite system, therefor they die. The couple that do have people caring will have awkward UX to sign up for them.

Invite-only channels should be opt-in. Period.

there was a time when warpcast gating was available to all channels. as i recall, very few switched over. why do you think that was?

To me channels are more a hashtag replacement than gated communities. I want to "categorize" my casts in a meaningful way and channels so far have worked for that. Now they turn into communities, and there's no hashtag-esque feature anymore. Maybe warpcast should implement that next.

you can't use channels for categorization under the new regime?

because you don't intend to join those channels (or will leave if grandfathered in)?

A hashtag I can just chose, there's no setup required. A channel I have to visit first, check if they allow a way to join, probably go through awkward frame UX that might be broken, or someone approves it manually, wait and only then I can actually use it. Way to much hassle for just categorizing a cast.

you can still cast to channels you aren't a member of. your content won't be visible to members, but that won't stop you from doing what you describe.

You sure? https://warpcast.notion.site/Upcoming-channel-changes-1056a6c0c101800caee6ea8133f8f966
> Channels now require membership to cast or reply — you must be invited to be a member.

pretty sure. and consistent with my understanding of the protocol and how channels actually work. that statement is true /and/ consistent with the forthcoming change.

members are permissioned.
members are visible in-channel-feed
non-members are not visible in-channel (hidden).

Their docs definitely make it sound like you won't be allowed to cast in channels anymore. You're right, on protocol level this won't be enforceable but Warpcast client will most likely prevent the cast and we all know that Warpcast is the leading force of farcaster still.

How will replies work from non-members with the new channel model?

1. Only members can create a new cast in a channel

2. Anyone can reply to a cast in a channel

3. On Warpcast, member replies will appear "above the fold" and non-members will be below the fold in "Show more replies"

4. However, if the original cast author likes or replies a cast from a non-member—or a channel mod likes or replies—the cast will appear above the fold.

5. This balances the membership model for channels with the ability for discovering new people, highlighting their reply and potentially inviting them to the channel.

6. Since you can have up to 10 moderators in a channel, including helpful bots, we expect that people will build bots that help surface interesting replies for non-members (and possibly even auto-invite them). Developers will get creative.

7. Ultimately, your channel, your rules.

okay, looked it over: replies are permissionless, non-members hidden. root is permissioned. and i think you are correct that warpcast will explicitly block the root cast. vaguely recall dan confirming that specifically.

okay, looked it over: replies are permissionless, non-members hidden. root is permissioned. and i think you are correct that warpcast will explicitly block the root cast. vaguely recall dan confirming that specifically.

https://warpcast.com/dwr.eth/0xa994e0d9

"non-members" hidden will also be an extremely awkward UX. I see a good cast from a channel I'm not a member of in my timeline, reply and then noone can actually see it? Does it at least notify the OC?