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gakonst
@gakonst
Technical AMA - will respond to any technical Q about blockchains, vms, performance, privacy, security, tooling, open source etc. Hoping to meet programmers or architects with similar interests at the frontier :)
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Varun Srinivasan
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Whats the most likely path to get practical, private transactions in the Ethereum world ?
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gakonst
@gakonst
I think somebody will need figure out how to connect account abstraction with stealth addresses plus hiding payment amounts. gas sponsorship will let anyone pay for your tx, batch txs will mean you can spend from multiple authorized stealth addrs solving the fragmentation.
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gakonst
@gakonst
@msolomon.eth might have thoughts here. it would be interesting if there were counterfactual smart contracts at stealth addrs and that solved some of the technical problems. I am not talking about networking here which is a separate beast and as a strawman I'd route all thru tor
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Matt Solomon
@msolomon.eth
We won't have widespread privacy until it becomes the default, so how do we make it the default? Some rough ideas: 1. Wallets need to start caring about privacy. At a minimum can imagine a UTXO-like wallet where everything is stealth addresses by default. Maybe doable with a MetaMask snap?
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Matt Solomon
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2. More public discussion and attention. https://vitalik.eth.limo/general/2023/01/20/stealth.html by @vitalik.eth was a great start and helped a lot. 3. Needs a broader roadmap for the community to get behind, as they did with the rollup centric roadmap. How should the various privacy techniques all fit together?
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Vitalik Buterin
@vitalik.eth
IMO the privacy ecosystem needs to get more pragmatic. I've been seeing way too many "let's create a completely private closed system" projects, and not enough simple wallets that are just ethereum wallets, but which offer an easy to use integrated private send feature.
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Matt Solomon
@msolomon.eth
I agree with that, and think the lack of pragmatism is likely because of the lack of cohesive vision. Privacy projects may feel they have to solve the full puzzle instead of just a piece, but there are too many pieces for one project to solve (sends, mixing, voting, defi, mempools, wallets, etc)
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